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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0
Date Tue, 12 Feb 2013 19:46:17 GMT
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Pedro Giffuni <pfg@apache.org> wrote:
> Hello;
>
> I don't understand,
>
> I saw a bug (erroneous result returned by a function) and I fixed
> it respecting the standards, thereby enhancing interperability
> with the market leader.
>
> I am aware that Rob has a different point of view here but so

By my count, those who expressed concern about your patch are;

- Me
- Regina
- Andre
- Stuart
- G√ľnter

I think this is a non-trivial amount opposition, including from some
whose opinions you might respect more than mine.

> far neither him nor Stephen Hawking has explained how the change
> would be incorrect and no example where someone has been affected
> by this change has been provided.
>

You can't have it both ways. Your claimed benefit is intrinsically
tied to breaking compatibility with earlier versions of OpenOffice.
You cannot both claim that it has a significant interop benefit and
also claim that it has a negligible backwards compatibility impact.

Regards,

-Rob



> Has the patch been vetoed, and if so on what basis?
>
> Pedro.
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>> Da: Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
>>A: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>Cc: dwhytock@gmail.com; pescetti@apache.org; 'Pedro Giffuni' <pfg@apache.org>
>>Inviato: Martedì 12 Febbraio 2013 13:11
>>Oggetto: RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0
>>
>>RESOLUTION OF THE PROPOSAL
>>
>>The proposed change was made under CTR (Commit then Review). There has been
>>a subsequent review and, as Don points out, the discussion has been lengthy
>>and vocal.
>>
>>The objective is to achieve consensus.  I believe it is clear that there is
>>no consensus on the proposed change and the proposal fails.
>>
>>I can't speak for the AOO PMC.  It would be useful if Andreas helped wrap
>>this up.  If the lack of consensus is affirmed, Pedro can revert the change
>>and adjust the Bugzilla issue.
>>
>>THE ESSENCE OF THE PROPOSAL
>>
>>The proposal is to enact the breaking change as described on
>>the Community Wiki at
>><https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes>
>>.
>>
>>It is under Changes that Impact Backward Compatibility, Calc and OpenFormula
>>Support.
>>
>>"Exponentiation
>>
>>"The current version of Calc produces 1 for POWER(0,0).  This is one of the
>>implementation-defined results that is permitted by ODF 1.2 OpenFormula.
>>
>>"It is proposed to change POWER(0,0) to result in #VALUE!.  This is also
>>permitted as the implementation-defined result.  This is also compatible
>>with Excel and the Excel 2013 support for ODF 1.2 OpenFormula in .ods
>>Spreadsheets. ..."
>>
>>OUTCOME
>>
>>The proposed change is tracked in Bugzilla Issue #114430,
>>< https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=114430>.
>>
>>A patch to implement this proposal is already included in the SVN.
>>If the proposal is not accepted as the result of CTR review, the
>>Issue will be closed and the patch reverted.
>>
>>- Dennis
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Donald Whytock [mailto:dwhytock@gmail.com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 09:20
>>To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>Subject: Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0
>>
>>...So I got curious, and I paged back in my email archive, and it
>>seems this is the biggest AOO dev thread since the graduation vote
>>back in early September.
>>
>>At this point, does anyone care enough about changing the status quo
>>as to put up a coherent proposal to be voted on?
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>>
>>

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