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From Rob Weir <>
Subject Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0
Date Tue, 12 Feb 2013 19:46:17 GMT
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Pedro Giffuni <> wrote:
> Hello;
> I don't understand,
> I saw a bug (erroneous result returned by a function) and I fixed
> it respecting the standards, thereby enhancing interperability
> with the market leader.
> I am aware that Rob has a different point of view here but so

By my count, those who expressed concern about your patch are;

- Me
- Regina
- Andre
- Stuart
- G√ľnter

I think this is a non-trivial amount opposition, including from some
whose opinions you might respect more than mine.

> far neither him nor Stephen Hawking has explained how the change
> would be incorrect and no example where someone has been affected
> by this change has been provided.

You can't have it both ways. Your claimed benefit is intrinsically
tied to breaking compatibility with earlier versions of OpenOffice.
You cannot both claim that it has a significant interop benefit and
also claim that it has a negligible backwards compatibility impact.



> Has the patch been vetoed, and if so on what basis?
> Pedro.
>> Da: Dennis E. Hamilton <>
>>Cc:;; 'Pedro Giffuni' <>
>>Inviato: Martedì 12 Febbraio 2013 13:11
>>Oggetto: RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0
>>The proposed change was made under CTR (Commit then Review). There has been
>>a subsequent review and, as Don points out, the discussion has been lengthy
>>and vocal.
>>The objective is to achieve consensus.  I believe it is clear that there is
>>no consensus on the proposed change and the proposal fails.
>>I can't speak for the AOO PMC.  It would be useful if Andreas helped wrap
>>this up.  If the lack of consensus is affirmed, Pedro can revert the change
>>and adjust the Bugzilla issue.
>>The proposal is to enact the breaking change as described on
>>the Community Wiki at
>>It is under Changes that Impact Backward Compatibility, Calc and OpenFormula
>>"The current version of Calc produces 1 for POWER(0,0).  This is one of the
>>implementation-defined results that is permitted by ODF 1.2 OpenFormula.
>>"It is proposed to change POWER(0,0) to result in #VALUE!.  This is also
>>permitted as the implementation-defined result.  This is also compatible
>>with Excel and the Excel 2013 support for ODF 1.2 OpenFormula in .ods
>>Spreadsheets. ..."
>>The proposed change is tracked in Bugzilla Issue #114430,
>>A patch to implement this proposal is already included in the SVN.
>>If the proposal is not accepted as the result of CTR review, the
>>Issue will be closed and the patch reverted.
>>- Dennis
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Donald Whytock []
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 09:20
>>Subject: Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0
>>...So I got curious, and I paged back in my email archive, and it
>>seems this is the biggest AOO dev thread since the graduation vote
>>back in early September.
>>At this point, does anyone care enough about changing the status quo
>>as to put up a coherent proposal to be voted on?

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