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From Kay Schenk <>
Subject Re: Updating Java libraries
Date Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:16:31 GMT
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Herbert Duerr <> wrote:

> Hi Michael,
> On 11.02.2013 17:21, Michael Lam wrote:
>> I have successfully test hsqldb-2.2.9 against the following 4 issues and
>> it is functioning correctly:
> Thanks a lot for investigating this!

yes, great news!

>  and I have looked at
>> Unless I am looking at this wrong, many of the changes are not related
>> to hsqldb19 and it is already in the latest revision. As for the hsqldb
>> specific, the patches does not apply to 2.2.9. As far as patches,
>> wouldn't it be better to report upstream and provide the patch instead
>> of just patching within the build?
> Definitely.
> In a linux distribution or a project such as ours with so many external
> dependencies there are good reasons not to always use the latest version of
> each component: That could easily result in endless churn and prevent
> releases. So backporting fixes is an alternative that should is often
> preferable. I don't know the background of the issues mentioned above that
> were fixed for HSQLDB but maybe they were such backports of fixes?

I thought the main reason for investigating the HSQLDB upgrade/change was
due to issues between java 6 and 7? we have some other patches submitted to
help with that also. I could be wrong about this though.

>  There are also checks within the code
>> to specifically check for version 1.8.x, not sure  wouldn't it be better
>> to enforce on configure/bootstrap? The current way seem to require a lot
>> more work to update dependencies and the with-system-hsqldb for
>> configure provides no warning.
> Using configure for checking this and cleaning up checks for obsoleted
> versions is a good plan. Please go ahead.
>  I will take a look at the open issues and see if it is resolved with the
>> new version.
>> I am guessing my next steps would be looking into updating the build to
>> pull the jar?
> Better use the mechanism provided by main/external_deps.lst
> Herbert


"A great deal of talent is lost to the world
      for want of a little courage."
                             -- Sydney Smith

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