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From Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <orwittm...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: update service for not released languages [was: Re: Registration]
Date Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:17:16 GMT
Hi,

On 27.02.2013 11:17, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 26.02.2013 22:48, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>> <orwittmann@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 09.08.2012 22:23, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 07.08.2012 23:44, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created a page with this content at
>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/legacy/thankyou.html
>>>>>
>>>>> May be we can use it also for our update service. It could be the
>>>>> landing page for users of legacy OOo versions for whose language we do
>>>>> not have a released package.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For those cases it would be better to wait until 3.4.1 is out, then
>>>> provide, for
>>>> unsupported languages, some "beta/RC" builds or langpacks based on the
>>>> same SVN
>>>> revision and the SDF files we have now and create a page saying
>>>> something
>>>> like
>>>> "your language is not officially supported, but you can help us
>>>> [links to
>>>> unofficial builds and instructions]". But this is just an idea that
>>>> we can
>>>> discuss after 3.4.1 is released.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I would definitely wait until AOO 3.4.1 is out.
>>>
>>> Having unofficial language packs for our unsupported languages would
>>> be a
>>> good idea, esp. to attract some new volunteers for translations.
>>>
>>> I will keep your's and Rob's idea in mind for my planned future work
>>> on the
>>> update service.
>>>
>>
>> Now that the 3.4.1 language respin is released I'd like to bring back
>> to mind this earlier discussion.   There are (we assume) many users
>> out there still running OOo 3.3.0 or earlier.  Even months after 3.4.0
>> and 3.4.1 were released we get a steady stream of upgrades from OOo
>> 3.3.0, 3.2.1 and 3.2.0.
>>
>> But we're only advertising upgrades for those cases where we have a
>> translation for that language.  I wonder if we could use the upgrade
>> notification message as a form of recruitment for translation help in
>> AOO 4.0?
>>
>
> Yes, the update service could be used for it.
> For each language we are able to provide its own web site URL. Thus, we
> could use a landing page URL for languages for which we have no release.
>
> I will have a look, if the message shown in the update service dialog in
> the running OOo 3.2, 3.2.1 and 3.3 instance can already contain a
> corresponding short message that the new version is not available in the
> requested language.
>

I had a look and an additional text is possible - see attached screenshot.
The additional text should be translated into the corresponding language.

Best regards, Oliver.

>> One idea would be this:
>>
>> 1) Create a landing page on the website that makes the following points:
>>
>> a) You are running an older version of OpenOffice.  A more recent one
>> is available, AOO 3.4.1, available in the following languages...
>>
>> b) We're working on a new 4.0 release with many exciting feature
>> (point to blog post).  We'd love to support your language, but need
>> help with translation.  If you want to help, or know someone who might
>> be interested, here is where to find more information on how to get
>> involved...
>>
>> c) Sign up here on the announcement mailing list (or Facebook, or
>> Twitter or Google+) to be notified when AOO 4.0 is released
>>
>> 2) Then enable update notifications for all languages not included in
>> AOO 3.4.1, and point the user to the new landing page.
>>
>> 3) After a week revert the update configuration file on our server to
>> the earlier state, so users do not get this message repeatedly.  (By
>> default it should check only once a week).
>>
>> I think something like the above would be great to do in the near
>> term, since it would give enough time for new volunteers to complete
>> translations in time for AOO 4.0.
>>
>
> +1 from my side.
> ad 3): may extend to two weeks
>
> Best regards, Oliver.

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