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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 10:12:03 -0800
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Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] lazy consensus for new News scrolling
From: Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Here's is the latest/final draft for the proposed new user portal web
> site
> > home page incorporating News scrolling:
> >
> > http://www.openoffice.org/test/
> >
> > I am invoking "lazy consensus" for this change. If I hear no complaints
> by
> > Sunday 1750 PDT, I will implement this change.
> >
>
> I can see how this makes it easier to manage the news articles.
> Previously we kept the most recent articles on index.html and
> "rotated" the older ones off onto an archive page.  This was a manual
> process, an extra set of steps.  With your new SSI mechanism we just
> keep all of the news articles in a single SSI file, the are displayed
> on the home page and the user can scroll through them.  So from the
> perspective of the author of the news stories this is a big
> improvement.  Thanks for looking into this!
>
> However, from the perspective of the page reader, this has two liabilities:
>
> 1) Aesthetically, from a design perspective this doesn't work well,
> especially that scroll bar.  IMHO, it does not look like a
> professional page.
>

comments duly noted on the scroll bar...I could look for some better
styling on this.


> 2) Impact on page load time.  As we add more stories to the SSI,
> especially stories with images/photos (which I'd like to start doing)
> the page size is going to increase.  Eventually this becomes a problem
> and we're back to manual rotation of the stories to an archive page.
>

This is certainly true. I was thinking we would eventually "cut off" older
items from the bottom of the ssi file. Nothing to prevent any committer
from doing this.


>
> Since this is the visitors first impression of the project, I wonder
> if it is worth exploring further to see if there is a way to address
> these issues?   As I mentioned before, the ASF home page has a "latest
> activity" panel that avoids both of these problems:
>
> http://www.apache.org/
>
> Can we copy what they do?
>

ummm...not sure about this. We would need to do more thorough investigation
here. Right now, I can not easily determine how this column is generated --
manually vs something else.

In any case, removing the scrolling styling from the current ssi would
certainly do away with the bars. If we wanted to keep all the news items in
one file but only bring in like the last 10 or something, there MAY be a
way to do that. You could certainly do it either with server side JS or a
cgi.

Anyway, I will hold up on this change for now I guess.

I agree that the scroll "bars" don't look very professional. I may find
some nicer looking scrolling mechanism...


> -Rob
>
> > Thereafter all "news" items will not be added to the home page directly
> or
> > to /news/index.html, but to /news/newslist.ssi (this is a text file, not
> > html), LIFO order, maintaining the styling you see for other items there.
> >
> > --
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."
> >                                  -- Aesop
>


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