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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0
Date Mon, 21 Jan 2013 02:19:55 GMT
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 9:14 PM, F C. Costero <fjcc.apache@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/20/2013 2:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Kay Schenk<kay.schenk@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Andrea
>>> Pescetti<pescetti@apache.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK.  Here is a draft:
>>>>> https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=**
>>>>>
>>>>> merging_symphony_allegro_non_**troppo<https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=merging_symphony_allegro_non_troppo>
>>>>> Note that there are some suggested topics at the end, where I need
>>>>> detail.  I welcome help from anyone who can help fill in the details.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Highly interesting *and* entertaining!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! In the draft you ask for the screenshots showing enhancements: I
>>>> think it's the same page by Shenfeng Liu we've already shared here,
>>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Documentation/Fidelity_**
>>>>
>>>> Improvement_Since_AOO341<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Fidelity_Improvement_Since_AOO341>
>>>> (they are not all from Symphony, but the majority are, including all
>>>> "OOXML Support" enhancements).
>>>>
>>>> Can the long bullet list be prioritized in some ways? Not all the list,
>>>> but at least making sure that the first few items are the most relevant.
>>>> I
>>>> would put issues containing "crash" first, but maybe someone who has
>>>> better
>>>> knowledge of the impact can suggest other issues worth to be listed at
>>>> the
>>>> top.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, it would be good to give category headings for this list.  I
>>> understand the jsutification for length -- what, really, is being
>>> incorporated from Symphony, but if length is an issue, maybe drop some.
>>>
>>
>> OK.  Look now.  I re-ordered the bugs a little to put some of the more
>> interesting ones first.  I also added a header.  Since an article is
>> coming out in a couple of days on Lwn.net claiming that we have done
>> absolutely nothing with the Symphony code, there is value in giving
>> the full list.  We should leave no doubt that work in this area has
>> been ongoing.  While some were working on the more publicly visible
>> AOO 3.4.1 work on a branch, a lot was happening in the trunk.  We
>> haven't really spoken about that work before.  Now is a good time.
>>
>>>
>>>> The title "Allegro non troppo" is a clever pun! The expression is
>>>> clearly
>>>> recognizable as international musical jargon and a pun on Symphony, but
>>>> the
>>>> usual meaning of "allegro" in Italian is "happy" which adds an
>>>> interesting
>>>> twist...
>>>>
>>>> Minor typo just before the bullet list: "the fix fro Symphony".
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>    Andrea.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Finally, although I realize that most blog readers will be non-technical,
>>> I
>>> think it might be valuable to at least broach the subject of SGA vs
>>> licensing here in some way.  Even if a few sentences could be added
>>> under:
>>>
>>> "IBM Lotus Symphony is a commercial derivative of OpenOffice which IBM
>>> enhanced<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Symphony_contribution>  for
>>> their
>>> customer and corporate use.    Last May IBM contributed the source code
>>> for
>>> Symphony to Apache, via a Software Grant Agreement (SGA). "
>>>
>>> to address this it would be great. What does it mean to contribute code
>>> and
>>> "use" it piecemeal vs re-licensing it , for example.
>>>
>>
>> I added some additional text to explain what an SGA is.  I also
>> corrected the typo that Andrea pointed out and add the link to the
>> "before&  after" screen shots that he posted.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I'm happy to make further changes or content additions. But I'm
>> generally happy with.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>>> This is  a great blog! I'm sure our users and general audience will
>>> appreciate it!
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> MzK
>>>
>>> "No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."
>>>
>>> --
>>> Aesop
>
> Rob,
>   Thanks for working on this, it is very well done. I noticed a couple of
> typos in the third movement:

Great.  Thanks for the proof-read.  I made those changes.

-Rob

> "A a modeless property picker" needs only one "A".
> "So we're considering at several" drop the "at"
> "and we're bring those into OpenOffice. " should be "and we're bringing
> those into OpenOffice".
> I'm also not sure "modeless" will be meaningful to regular users. Would
> "continuously available" be better?
> Regards,
> Francis

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