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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: "A preservation hazard in OpenOffice"
Date Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:25:01 GMT
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Drew Jensen <drewjensen.inbox@gmail.com> wrote:
> Frick - daily builds and yes it says 3.5 and yes I know that is really
> going to release as 4.0.
>

OK.  So generally speaking, when attempting to verify behavior that a
user sees, I wouldn't say that the issue does not exist on the basis
of testing done with unreleased code.  Certainly Gary was using a
released version of OpenOffice.  It is possible that it worked one way
in OOo 3.3.0 or AOO 3.4.x, and now works differently.

-Rob

>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Drew Jensen <drewjensen.inbox@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Well, looks like it is not so easy to say that is wrong.
>> >
>> > Tried this again, except instead of using Linux, using AOO 3.5 on Windows
>> > and IE for the browser.
>> >
>>
>> There is no AOO 3.5.  What exactly are you running?  It should be
>> listed in the Help/About box.
>>
>> > With writer it just craps out and you get nothing usable. But with draw,
>> > yes the image is linked not embedded and I am absolutely sure I did a
>> copy
>> > (image) not copy (address).
>> >
>> > //drew
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Drew Jensen <drewjensen.inbox@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Just read the article.
>> >>
>> >> The article does not sound correct, if memory serves, checked using AOO
>> >> 3.5.
>> >>
>> >> Sure enough, copy an image from a web site and paste into a writer
>> >> document, the document has an embedded image, as I thought.
>> >>
>> >> My guess is that the author did not copy the image, he copied the
>> location
>> >> - common mistake.
>> >>
>> >> As for AOO, hard to expect it not to do what the user told it to do.
>> >>
>> >> Finally, checking for external links - isn't there already an extension
>> >> that does that, I know there was lots of talk about creating one ...
>> didn't
>> >> find it with a quick search however.
>> >>
>> >> Ciao,
>> >>
>> >> //drew
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Have you seen this:
>> >>> http://fileformats.wordpress.com/2012/12/30/openoffice/ ???
>> >>>
>> >>> (I'm cc'ing the author of that blog post, Gary McGrath)
>> >>>
>> >>> This is from the perspective of a person interested in long-term
>> >>> preservation/archiving of documents.
>> >>>
>> >>> This looks like a feature that is working "as designed", although it
>> >>> does obscure the fact that the image is linked, not embedded in this
>> >>> case.
>> >>>
>> >>> It might be worth having a web page, or a document, about best
>> >>> practices for creating documents in OpenOffice that are free of such
>> >>> external dependencies.   Could probably also use the ODF Toolkit to
>> >>> scan documents to identify such issues in a document.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> -Rob
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>>

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