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From Fabrizio Marchesano <fmarches...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Sidebar color scheme survey
Date Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:33:27 GMT
Hello Andre,
thanks for your quick reply.

> I will be at FOSDEM, too, so I hope that we can meet.

I'll be glad, too: I will stay in Brussels only on Saturday, I hope to have
the chance to meet you.

>  So, if you develop such extensions then it would be very
> helpful if you could test them with the developer build.

I'll try immediately and let you know (hopefully in person at FOSDEM).
Thanks again and best regards,

Fabrizio


On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Andre Fischer <awf.aoo@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 30.01.2013 15:24, Fabrizio Marchesano wrote:
>
>> Hello Andre,
>> I just tested the Sidebar Developer Build on a Windows XP virtual Machine
>>
>
> Hm, that means that it runs on XP but not on Windows7.  Strange.
>
>
>  and it looks really great, thanks for the great work by my side, too!
>> May I ask if I can include a screenshot of the Sidebar Developer Build
>> into
>> my FOSDEM presentation?
>>
>
> Absolutely.  I will be at FOSDEM, too, so I hope that we can meet.
>
>
>  The subject of my talk is the development of custom Task Pane estensions,
>> and I would like to show a glimpse of the future (of course, mentioning
>> the
>> source wiki page and specifying that the screenshot is related to a
>> work-in-progess UI).
>> I'm highly interested in custom sidebar extension development (I began
>> creating custom sidebar plug-ins for clients in IBM Lotus Symphony
>> environment) and I would like to contribute on the subject; I currently
>> use
>> Java and NetBeans plug-in to create my extension, is the source code for
>> the Java extension for development and debugging of the sidebar available?
>>
>
> Not yet.  I plan on making the source public when a) I find a good place
> for it and b) the configuration and API changes/enhancements settle.
>
>
>  Is there any other way I may help?
>>
>
> My goal is to stay compatible with the current way of adding sidebar
> extensions.  So, if you develop such extensions then it would be very
> helpful if you could test them with the developer build.  Just install them
> like you do that now and they should be visible in both the old/current and
> the new sidebar.
>
> -Andre
>
>
>  About the color scheme survey, my preference goes to C1, followed by B1
>> and
>> A1.
>> Thanks in advance and best regards,
>>
>> Fabrizio
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 5:07 AM, Shenfeng Liu <liushenf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Andre,
>>>    Thanks for the great work!
>>>    I search out the original sidebar post on facebook:
>>> http://www.facebook.com/**ApacheOO/posts/395424523873910<http://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/395424523873910>
>>>    And the result till now shows that B1 and B3 are more favorite, and
>>> A1 is
>>> following.
>>>
>>>    Here is what I counted out (some people voted for multiple options.
>>> And
>>> if some one just say "I like 3", I will +1 for A3, B3 and C3):
>>>
>>> A1: 4
>>> A2: 1
>>> A3: 2
>>> B1: 5
>>> B2: 1
>>> B3: 5
>>> C1: 2
>>> C2: 1
>>> C3: 3
>>>
>>> - Shenfeng (Simon)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/30 Kevin Grignon <kevingrignon.oo@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>  Andre,
>>>>
>>>> This is looking really great.
>>>>
>>>> Re: colour
>>>> An initial goal for the sidebar is to compliment, but not compete with
>>>> of
>>>> distract users from the canvas. In an effort to minimize UI noise and
>>>>
>>> help
>>>
>>>> keep the focus on the editor canvas - the work - I recommend we adopt a
>>>> hybrid of proposal 1 & 3: a grey background with suitable contrast for
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> title sections, a darker grey.
>>>>
>>>> Another option might be to use a gradient for the section title. Darker
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>> lighter, top to bottom. This would frame the header, reinforce the
>>>> expand/collapse affordable And reinforce the info architecture. More
>>>> importantly, if the gradient resolved to the background colour, it would
>>>> eliminate the line between the header text and the content. This will
>>>> strengthen the association between the section title and content and
>>>> mitigate the Lego effect. I can prep a sketch to illustrate my point.
>>>>
>>>> Re: control styles
>>>> Again, noise reduction and consistency would be best. Flat backgrounds
>>>>
>>> are
>>>
>>>> consistent with other toolbars and reduce non-actionable pixels. I
>>>> recommend we implement Proposal B.
>>>>
>>>> Again, great job.
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking forward to exploring new and exciting uses for the sidebar
>>>> framework.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Kevin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:41 PM, Andre Fischer <awf.aoo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Development of the sidebar is progressing well.  It already looks a lot
>>>>>
>>>> like the mockups posted by Xin Li on December 18th [1].  I have
>>>> concentrated on the underlying framework, so there is only one partially
>>>> migrated panel so far.  Nevertheless the framework is now flexible
>>>> enough
>>>> to think about the default color scheme to use. There are developer
>>>>
>>> builds
>>>
>>>> [2] and an extension that allow live evaluation of the nine different
>>>>
>>> color
>>>
>>>> schemes from [1].
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to ask you to either look at the mockups at [1] or try the
>>>>>
>>>> developer builds [2] and tell me what color scheme you like best.
>>>>
>>>>> General information about the sidebar, the current state of development
>>>>>
>>>> and how to help can be found in the wiki [3].
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance for you help,
>>>>> Andre
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/AOO_UX_Design_**
>>> Exploration_-_Task_Pane_**Content_Panel_-_User_**
>>> Interface_Design_Proposals#**Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_**
>>> Design_propoals<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals>
>>>
>>>> [2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds>
>>>>> [3] http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar>
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: I remember Rob having asked the same question on our Facebook site
>>>>>
>>>> but can not find the email anymore.  I also remember that the feedback
>>>>
>>> was
>>>
>>>> somewhat inconclusive.  Does anybody know the details?
>>>>
>>>
>

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