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From Drew Jensen <drewjensen.in...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: "A preservation hazard in OpenOffice"
Date Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:56:51 GMT
Alright Rob.

back to the issue - it appears to be platform specific.

Checking again, w/ AOO (daily), under windows and using Chrome there is one
difference.
Copy/Paste to a writer document works - and it is linked, unless you select
copy special and then select bitmap.

Otherwise - I'll check the issue tracker about the win/ie/writer problem I
ran into and if it is not noted yet ad a issue.

Best wishes,

//drew


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Drew Jensen <drewjensen.inbox@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Frick - daily builds and yes it says 3.5 and yes I know that is really
> > going to release as 4.0.
> >
>
> OK.  So generally speaking, when attempting to verify behavior that a
> user sees, I wouldn't say that the issue does not exist on the basis
> of testing done with unreleased code.  Certainly Gary was using a
> released version of OpenOffice.  It is possible that it worked one way
> in OOo 3.3.0 or AOO 3.4.x, and now works differently.
>
> -Rob
>
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Drew Jensen <
> drewjensen.inbox@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Well, looks like it is not so easy to say that is wrong.
> >> >
> >> > Tried this again, except instead of using Linux, using AOO 3.5 on
> Windows
> >> > and IE for the browser.
> >> >
> >>
> >> There is no AOO 3.5.  What exactly are you running?  It should be
> >> listed in the Help/About box.
> >>
> >> > With writer it just craps out and you get nothing usable. But with
> draw,
> >> > yes the image is linked not embedded and I am absolutely sure I did a
> >> copy
> >> > (image) not copy (address).
> >> >
> >> > //drew
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Drew Jensen <
> drewjensen.inbox@gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Just read the article.
> >> >>
> >> >> The article does not sound correct, if memory serves, checked using
> AOO
> >> >> 3.5.
> >> >>
> >> >> Sure enough, copy an image from a web site and paste into a writer
> >> >> document, the document has an embedded image, as I thought.
> >> >>
> >> >> My guess is that the author did not copy the image, he copied the
> >> location
> >> >> - common mistake.
> >> >>
> >> >> As for AOO, hard to expect it not to do what the user told it to do.
> >> >>
> >> >> Finally, checking for external links - isn't there already an
> extension
> >> >> that does that, I know there was lots of talk about creating one ...
> >> didn't
> >> >> find it with a quick search however.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ciao,
> >> >>
> >> >> //drew
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Have you seen this:
> >> >>> http://fileformats.wordpress.com/2012/12/30/openoffice/ ???
> >> >>>
> >> >>> (I'm cc'ing the author of that blog post, Gary McGrath)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This is from the perspective of a person interested in long-term
> >> >>> preservation/archiving of documents.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This looks like a feature that is working "as designed", although
it
> >> >>> does obscure the fact that the image is linked, not embedded in
this
> >> >>> case.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It might be worth having a web page, or a document, about best
> >> >>> practices for creating documents in OpenOffice that are free of
such
> >> >>> external dependencies.   Could probably also use the ODF Toolkit
to
> >> >>> scan documents to identify such issues in a document.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Regards,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -Rob
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>

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