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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: Adapt the naming of our project deliverables - "OpenOffice.org" --> "Apache OpenOffice"
Date Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:53:16 GMT

On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On 12.01.2013 00:39, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> 
>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 01/11/2013 03:06 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>>>> On 1/10/13 3:56 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10.01.2013 11:55, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Oliver-Rainer,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10.01.2013 11:23, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>>>>>> I have finished the renaming from "OpenOffice.org" to "Apache
>>>>>>> OpenOffice" - see issue 121388.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Beside corresponding changes in the user interface this change
has
>>>>>>> impact on the following important and critical stuff: -
>>>>>>> folder/directory names - package names - Windows registry key
names
>>>>>>> and values - ...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As the folder/directory path to the user profile is also changed,
>>>>>>> the user profile of a former installed AOO (or OOo) version is
not
>>>>>>> taken over.
>>>>>> for installation script purposes of add-ons etc., where can one find
>>>>>> the concrete strings for folder/directory names on the various
>>>>>> operating system platforms and the Windows registry key names and
>>>>>> values?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately, there is no single place in the source code. I also had
>>>>> not the resources to clean this up during the renaming work - hint,
>>>>> hint, hint :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please have a look at issue 121388, the wiki page referenced in one of
>>>>> the issue's comments and the intrinsic changes I have made.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The product installation folder is more or less a form of the
>>>>> $PRODUCTNAME + [major version number]. E.g.: - Windows: "Apache
>>>>> OpenOffice 3" - Linux: "apache_openoffice3" On Linux platforms we have
>>>>> also the basis installation folder. It name is found in
>>>>> /main/instsetoo_native/util/openoffice.lst
>>>>> 
>>>>> The user profile folder is more or less $PRODUCTNAME/[major version
>>>>> number]/
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Windows registry keys and values can be found in module main/scp2/
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope that helps a little bit.
>>>> 
>>>> I was thinking about the name and here I mean the name that is used for
>>>> the folder etc. The name is used in the help, in tools option, in the
>>>> menu...
>>>> 
>>>> We changed "OpenOffice.org" to "Apache OpenOffice" so good so far. But
>>>> would it be nicer to shorten the folder, menu entries, ... to simply
>>>> OpenOffice
>>>> 
>>>> Folders Linux: /opt/openoffice4 Mac: OpenOffice.app Windows: OpenOffice
>>>> 4
>>>> 
>>>> Tools Option OpenOffice OpenOffice Writer OpenOffice ...
>>>> 
>>>> Help OpenOffice instead of hundreds of "Apache OpenOffice"
>>>> 
>>>> The idea is that the project and product is called Apache OpenOffice but
>>>> in practice we would use in the product the short from OpenOffice. The
>>>> intro, start center, about can of course use images where we use "Apache
>>>> OpenOffice".
>>>> 
>>>> Well it's just an idea and I know it would require some further work but
>>>> now would be the time for it. I believe legally should it be ok today but
>>>> it have to checked to be safe.
>>>> 
>>>> What's your opinion?
>>> 
>>> In general a very good idea: Shorter menu entries, etc. and a higher
>>> attention of the open source product.
>>> 
>>> And yes, we should get this clarified from trademarks@.
>> 
>> If it is called Apache OpenOffice software or product on first use on certain
>> pages then it is permissible to use short forms like OpenOffice in various
>> places. There is no trouble with that approach. Look at the Apache Hadoop
>> project's home page - http://hadoop.apache.org/
>> 
>> We should make sure that somewhere we use OpenOffice.org ® for the link to
>> the website to preserve that trademark in certain jurisdictions.
>> 
> 
> As you might have seen, I also changed "OpenOffice.org website" to "Apache OpenOffice
website" in some place of the help content.
> 
> Dave, do you think we should keep "OpenOffice.org" in such cases?

In order to preserve registered trademark in places like China we have to have places where
we show and use OpenOffice.org®.

Using that for the website is one easy and important way to do that.

Is there room for a phase like "The Apache OpenOffice product website at OpenOffice.org®"?

We should likely include this in the footer in the website. Probably this needs to be a full
discussion under its own topic.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Best regards, Oliver.


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