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From Kay Schenk <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Delete snapshots section from download page
Date Sat, 08 Dec 2012 17:21:24 GMT
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Marcus (OOo) <> wrote:
> Am 12/06/2012 02:03 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> Rob,
>> Thanks for clearly singling out this critical issue from the other issues
>> regarding developer snapshots.
>> On Dec 5, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>> This has a section that promotes the download of pre-release binaries
>>> to the general public.  This is against ASF Release Policy, where it
>>> says:
>>> "During the process of developing software and preparing a release,
>>> various packages are made available to the developer community for
>>> testing purposes. Do not include any links on the project website that
>>> might encourage non-developers to download and use nightly builds,
>>> snapshots, release candidates, or any other similar package. The only
>>> people who are supposed to know about such packages are the people
>>> following the dev list (or searching its archives) and thus aware of
>>> the conditions placed on the package. If you find that the general
>>> public are downloading such test packages, then remove them."
>>> We're in flagrant violation of this policy.   The page in question,
>>>, is the single post popular page
>>> on the website, more popular than the home page.  It gets over 3
>>> million visits per month.
>>> Unless anyone can come up with contrary policy interpretation, for
>>> example, from legal-discuss or the ASF Board, I'll go ahead and remove
>>> that section from the webpage in one week.
>> I did not notice that these links had been rewritten and reenabled. I
>> purposefully hid these during the OOo migration and 3.4 release process.
> I'm sure I've told here that the links could be enabled to point more people
> to these dev builds. But cannot find this for the moment in the archives.
> Marcus

yes, I remember this as well and it wasn't too long ago -- maybe late
Oct, early Nov. But, we forgot to read the fine print on Apache policy
in this regard. :/

>> I completely agree that the links need to be removed ASAP. Has
>> Infrastructure reenabled publish with the svn move? If so, I see no reason
>> to wait a whole week.
>> Also, please adjust as well.
>> As project developers we will need to inform people on an as needed basis
>> about the CWiki page only during ML conversations on dev, qa and L10N
>> mailing lists.
>> Thanks&  Regards,
>> Dave


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 she wants, rather than to create it herself?”

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