Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B4A6DECD for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 49937 invoked by uid 500); 1 Nov 2012 20:08:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 49883 invoked by uid 500); 1 Nov 2012 20:08:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 49875 invoked by uid 99); 1 Nov 2012 20:08:27 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:08:27 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of jogischmidt@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.47] (HELO mail-bk0-f47.google.com) (209.85.214.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:08:18 +0000 Received: by mail-bk0-f47.google.com with SMTP id jk7so1089276bkc.6 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:07:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZkeTys6d57/SOCUJzIBa64N8QaN55Dr7ZW+X01YMj1E=; b=SL77eV4QXRKI4cynxulpD1DA2dw75AE4ASZ8BpNGVU3T3TSGlJMK9Y1HNHgBiP2Bm1 SEGhRAQt8WCFyE5Qs9xKr02MmA/KtqrnC5OW1V0hnb3zsAfLPQEMp872gY8cenM27OPw iAM/P0ZyfnJQPjNRdzH2H98yqVc0wcX9qrAkH2vzJnxa0W3UyOrCfwcqIwUMErhbZBA8 mrMkH7wT9IN6808qv8AURj5DC9hlId+EWDBhwaX9XHcJXebXkrOuI03AbnL/011KsiYM +0UtZtS1F8zOsWt5Ijs86zQqVNWP7zhO/LIb/B7LiZmkdZKB46YNaPftqsTqzwkBtQVN hWLw== Received: by 10.204.146.83 with SMTP id g19mr12818188bkv.33.1351800477917; Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.26] (e177101175.adsl.alicedsl.de. [85.177.101.175]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s20sm5676603bkw.15.2012.11.01.13.07.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5092D69C.1020802@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 21:07:56 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Schmidt?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Have you been contacted via private email and discouraged from participating on the OpenOffice project? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 11/1/12 5:38 PM, jan iversen wrote: > Please excuse me, I think I know the difference between hooligans and > people who are just blowing hot air. > > To be honest, at the moment AOO does NOT have a great deal of momentum, and > have (I think) lost a quite a lot of reputation among developers. That is > something we have to remedy, not by glittering folders, or smart marketing, > but by showing the developers, that we really care about their > contributions. > > If I may say so, some developers might see "the apache way" as a > limitation, which my experience during the last month somewhat confirms, I > think we really need to focus on "the community" instead of telling people > about legal issues, but about getting a product that still can out beat the > big (costly) products out there. Do NOT forget some state institutions in > EU choose OpenOffice against other, but today I would not be so sure !!! > > Sorry for the outburst, but I am used to say what I think, and I really > really want AOO to be the opensource project, as it was in the past. Lets > not forget why we are all here..... > well spoken, I can only agree. I think it was important to make it public that strange things are going on and that we don't support such a style. More important is that we focus on our project and that we welcome everybody who is interested to work on one of most important and biggest open source projects. Come and ask -> we the community will answer Come and do something -> we the community will guide you and will help you Come and have fun with us -> the pay for your work/contribution is the assurance that you help to make a product better that is used by millions of people all over the world. More than 22 million downloads, ~1 million per week. That is motivation from my point of view and we can do better in the future ;-) Let us have fun and let us continue our way. Juergen