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From Rob Weir <>
Subject Re: Have you been contacted via private email and discouraged from participating on the OpenOffice project?
Date Thu, 01 Nov 2012 20:12:25 GMT
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:07 PM, J├╝rgen Schmidt <> wrote:
> On 11/1/12 5:38 PM, jan iversen wrote:
>> Please excuse me, I think I know the difference between hooligans and
>> people who are just blowing hot air.
>> To be honest, at the moment AOO does NOT have a great deal of momentum, and
>> have (I think) lost a quite a lot of reputation among developers. That is
>> something we have to remedy, not by glittering folders, or smart marketing,
>> but by showing the developers, that we really care about their
>> contributions.
>> If I may say so, some developers might see "the apache way" as a
>> limitation, which my experience during the last month somewhat confirms, I
>> think we really need to focus on "the community" instead of telling people
>> about legal issues, but about getting a product that still can out beat the
>> big (costly) products out there. Do NOT forget some state institutions in
>> EU choose OpenOffice against other, but today I would not be so sure !!!
>> Sorry for the outburst, but I am used to say what I think, and I really
>> really want AOO to be the opensource project, as it was in the past. Lets
>> not forget why we are all here.....
> well spoken, I can only agree.
> I think it was important to make it public that strange things are going
> on and that we don't support such a style. More important is that we
> focus on our project and that we welcome everybody who is interested to
> work on one of most important and biggest open source projects.
> Come and ask -> we the community will answer
> Come and do something -> we the community will guide you and will help you
> Come and have fun with us -> the pay for your work/contribution is the
> assurance that you help to make a product better that is used by
> millions of people all over the world. More than 22 million downloads,
> ~1 million per week. That is motivation from my point of view and we can
> do better in the future ;-)

I like that last part!

We should put that on the home page as a "news story" some time.

As for me, I apologize for the distraction.  I don't intend to make a
big thing about this.  My intention was only to make it publicly known
that these things are happening.  I think that likelihood of a public
"outing", if this behavior is repeated, is a sufficient deterrent to
repetition.  If so, my note has served its purpose.


> Let us have fun and let us continue our way.
> Juergen

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