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From Alexandro Colorado <...@oooes.org>
Subject Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community
Date Thu, 01 Nov 2012 10:33:55 GMT
On 11/1/12, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/30/12 12:14 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:19 AM, "Jörg Schmidt" <joesch@j-m-schmidt.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> When we have something to announce you can expect to read it in
>>>> official places. It won't be something we'll be hiding in strange
>>>> corners of the web.
>>>
>>> That means if an employee identifies proposals on XING does not
>>> correspond to the opinion of the IBM? Not officially?
>>> I think that's a strange point of view.
>>>
>>> I think sentences like:
>>>
>>> "heute mal eine ganz andere Anfrage, IBM als eine der Firmen, die sich im
>>> Apache OpenOffice Projekt engagiert, macht sich auch über ein Service &
>>> Support Konzept im Rahmen von Apache OpenOffice Gedanken.
>>> [...]
>>> Ich würde gerne mehr darüber erfahren, wer im OpenOffice Umfeld aktiv ist
>>> und an einer Partnerbeziehung auf dieser Ebene mit IBM interessiert
>>> ist."
>>>
>>> are absolutely clear.
>>
>> This sounds like research to me.
>
> exactly, I simply wanted to start a discussion on a further channel and
> I haven't offered anything concrete. It was an attempt of brainstorming
> without the success that I has looked for :-(
>
> The idea of such a partner network of course is that people or even
> companies can make use of it and can recommend each other on demand. Or
> ISV can work together on bigger deals if necessary.
>
> As Rob pointed already out if IBM receive a request for support for AOO
> but IBM can't help for whatever reason it would be good to have a
> partner network worldwide where we simply could recommend an ISV/partner.
>
> It's funny in the past people complained about the dominance of
> Sun/Oracle in the project, then people tried to put IBM in this
> position. But IBM don't want a special role in the project, we want be
> part of the overall community and want work together with others.

The issue with Sun/Oracle wasn't business related but community
related. At a point Sun usually wasn't really in a meaningful picture
in many of the peripheral offices. The partner network was always
something that was embraced during the BizDev project, but the
relevance of this effort wasn't enough to capture possible
consultants. Also beside the BizDev list, there was a need for more
corporate push, like partner relations upstream and a real channel to
discuss business-related needs of the software.

We meet a couple of times with Simon Phipps to have Sun more engaged
on OOo affairs, but bureaucracy and the internal struggles at Sun
didn't make the idea go that fair in.

>
> It seems that you expect IBM should taking a leading role here. But I
> think the best way to show confidence in the project is a healthy,
> diverse and working community without a leading company and that exactly
> is what Apache guarantees.
>
> Juergen
>
>>
>>>
>>> But no problem, I will contact IBM directly. Thanks for your
>>> clarification.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If everything is "absolutely clear" to you then I don't know what you
>> want "clarifications" on.   But if you do have a question then just
>> ask it, here or via private email if that is your preference. But I
>> speak honestly when I say that I cannot figure out what your theory is
>> here and what you think is occurring.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Jörg
>>>
>
>


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Alexandro Colorado
PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org

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