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From Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie>
Subject Re: desktop publishing
Date Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:21:35 GMT
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:08:43 -0800
Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Phil,
> 
> It is not completely impossible that an extension could be added to AOO to read and write
Publisher files. It just takes one or two Java programmers with the time and interest. See
[1] for where the effort could start.
> 
> On Nov 22, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Fernand Vanrie wrote:
> 
> > Juergen,
> > 
> > Maybe 1 machine has a MS office package for the "unsalvable problems" the 99 others
have Windows with LO ,OO, Thunderbird, Inkscape, Gimp, Image Magick and a free Adobe PDF reader
> > 
> > We can read and write MS text and spreadsheets, in the "editing world" PDF is the
exchange format by exelence. (For that reason PDF must been a graphic format in LO  and LO
:-)
> 
> It would great if PDF could be imported into any of Presenter, Writer and Draw. Perhaps
this can be a goal of the new Drawing work.
> 
> BTW - Postscript lives inside the PDF file format all of the drawing primitives are very
close to postscript and operate the same way.
> 
> SVG is also a descendent of Postscript. (as Postscript is a descendent of Xerox Interpress
plus III)
> 
> But I'm biased and have built a publishing chain based on applications producing postscript
pages with special comments, shell scripts to collate into postscript documents, conversion
to PDF w/ghostscript or editable PPTX using Java and Apache POI. 
> 
> We've also done PDF into editable shapes and text in PPTX using Apache PDFBox and Apache
POI. Should we make the effort to go to ODF we will likely be using ODFToolkit.
> 
> To close the loop if you want to process Publisher files and help with understanding
the files format Apache POI is a good place. [1]
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> [1] http://poi.apache.org/hpbf/index.html
> 
> > 
> > Maybe you comes to Fosdem in Brussels, we would be happy to invite you to show on
the work floor how is works here
> > 
> > Greetz
> > 
> > Fernand
> >> Hi Fernand,
> >> 
> >> I would love to read a more detailed public success story about your experience
and work with writer. It sounds very interesting especially when you stay in one world, means
no heavy exchange of MS formats.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for sharing
> >> 
> >> Juergen
> >> 
> >> Am Donnerstag, 15. November 2012 um 09:34 schrieb Fernand Vanrie:
> >>> Alexandro ,
> >>> 
> >>>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Phillip Zadro
> >>>> <ricaza1915@hotmail.com.au>wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> hi Is there any likelihood that OpenOffice will one day include
a desktop
> >>>>> publisher? There is only one thing that is stopping me from migrating
> >>>>> completely from Microsoft Office to either OpenOffice or LibreOffice
and it
> >>>>> is their lack of a Desktop Publisher comparable with MS Publisher.
I have
> >>>>> used Publisher for over 15 years and love its practicality, particularly
> >>>>> with paginating of booklets. Even a separate program like Serif
PagePlus
> >>>>> cannot save in MS format either, so I am obliged to stay with MS
Office.
> >>>>> Pity.. Thanks Phil
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Draw is a perfect Desktop publisher, is so perfect is compatible with
other
> >>> We uses exclusifly Writer (+ lot of basic macro's) to make over 8.000
> >>> full color magazine pages par year. This pages are all i2 languages
> >>> versions, with cutouts (we uses Edit Contour) transparancies etc...)
> >>> Our Editors places lowres images "embedded" in there documents, a final
> >>> macro checks the resolution quality and changes the lowres with the
> >>> highres (stored on a server) just before exporting to PDF
> >>> Sinds there is SVG, we no longer use EPS and "Adobe" to make our PDF's.
> >>> PostScript is dead anyhow (lack of transparency) the LO/OO- PDF export
> >>> is with use off a Lanczos filter nearly perfect.
> >>> We only needs a "payed" Color Server to transfer our RGB PDF's to CMYK
> >>> Our magazines are printed by different print houses (15.000-3.000 exp.)
> >>> on high quality paper, there are no complaints from our printers and the
> >>> readers can not sea the difference between our Magazines an thus maded
> >>> by payed DTP applications
> >>> Just a pitty thats SVG is still exported as bitmap (sould been repaired
> >>> in 3.7) and PDF is still not a accepted as a graphic format like we can
> >>> use (Tiff, jpg, etc...)
> >>> 
> >>> Greetz
> >>> 
> >>> Fernand
> >>>> desktop publishers like Scribus and is based on a frame based paradigm.
> >>>> There are some features that would be desirable but is pretty easy to
> >>>> complete basic and medium tasks like Flyers, Booklets and all it has
layers
> >>>> which keeps design separated from content. And have multiple layouts
and
> >>>> use of vectorial forms.
> >>>> 
> >>>> With improved use of SVG Draw is also gaining strenght in the area of
> >>>> design compatibility and would be improving as more features are considered.

One of my suggestions on the Google whatever it was called page was that Frame support should
be improved so that DTP capabilities improved.


-- 
Rory O'Farrell <ofarrwrk@iol.ie>

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