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From Ian Lynch <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] Proposed PMC List
Date Tue, 25 Sep 2012 14:24:23 GMT
On 25 September 2012 14:20, J├╝rgen Schmidt <> wrote:
> On 9/25/12 2:49 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
>> On 25 September 2012 12:10, Rob Weir <> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Ross Gardler
>>> <> wrote:
>>>> On 25 September 2012 11:22, Rob Weir <> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ian Lynch <>
>>>>>> On 25 September 2012 06:15, imacat <>
>>>>>>>     I feel honored to be listed.  I would like to help PMC if
there is a
>>>>>>> chance.
>>>>>>>     In any case, I suggest at least one female should be included
in the
>>>>>>> PMC, to encourage the contribution of females in the community
and bring
>>>>>>> diverse voices in PMC.  It is very important to encourage more
and more
>>>>>>> female contributors to join the community, and make them feel
>>>>>>> OpenOffice is theirs', not of some male geeks.
>>>>>> +1 broad representation is important.
>>>>> IMHO this is a bad idea and if we go down this route it demonstrates
>>>>> that we do not understand The Apache Way.
>> Demonstration of merit AND broad representation. Why these things
>> should be mutually exclusive in a project the size of AOO is beyond
>> me.
>> It's not an either or it's a both.
>> Since Apache is about community as well as code, merit can be gained
>> by recruitment, maintaining a healthy community and maximising its
>> growth. Apache is at least in part about inclusion according to the
>> mentors so strategies for inclusion are just as much part of the
>> Apache Way as merit. We should not be just cherry picking bits of the
>> Apache Way that suit a particular perspective.
> please Ian, this thread is not the best place to continue this
> discussion.

It is important to understand that "the list" is not decided on
misconceptions. That is relevant to this thread. But I'll also post on
the other thread.

> And again we are all on the same train. We had a thread
> about "What is a good Project Management Committee?" and this is
> probably the better place.
> Juergen


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