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From Kevin Grignon <>
Subject Re: Improving the Open Office Toolbars
Date Sat, 28 Jul 2012 03:29:31 GMT
KG01 - see comments inline. 

On Jul 27, 2012, at 5:40 AM, "Mike Buzzard" <> wrote:

> Hi
> I would really like it if you could make Open Office's Toolbars better:
> better, even than any toolbars, ribbons, etc!

KG01 - Indeed. Over time, toolbars can begin to feel overloaded. 

> I don't like Microsoft's Ribbon system!
> I have tried to follow your efforts to make Toolbars better, but not
> succeeded.

KG01 - What does "better" mean to you? No wrong answers here. I'm looking to work on the toolbars
in the next release and am gathering feedback. 

> However, Corel (in CorelDraw, PhotoPaint) have had a system for over a
> decade which very nearly solves the problem.  Have a try with CorelDraw: the
> toolbar changes depending on what you are doing, so nearly all the commands
> available at any time are the ones on the toolbar that is showing.  It's so
> simple!

KG01 - Yes, CorelDRAW had contextual toolbars back in version 7. There were common toolbars
that persisted in the workspace, then toolbars that would appear contextual to the selection.
For example, selection text would evoke a text properties toolbar. This is a pattern that
AOO could explore to reduce complexity, minimize toolbar icon overload and present commands
that are contextual to the selected element. 
> It would be great if you could try to make it work with Open Office.

KG01 - We could use your help. Watch the UX wiki for more on this topic and other UI enhancements.

> By the way, I have not put this idea forward before because I have not found
> a way of doing it - every way of commenting seems to be so complicated.

KG01 - Again, no wrong answers. What would be your ideal way to share product ideas and feedback?
> Best wishes to all
> Mike Buzzard

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