Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15AB6C519 for ; Tue, 22 May 2012 11:04:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 93971 invoked by uid 500); 22 May 2012 11:04:50 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 93810 invoked by uid 500); 22 May 2012 11:04:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 93783 invoked by uid 99); 22 May 2012 11:04:49 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 May 2012 11:04:49 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of rgaloppini@geek.net designates 74.125.149.247 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.149.247] (HELO na3sys009aog131.obsmtp.com) (74.125.149.247) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 May 2012 11:04:42 +0000 Received: from mail-pz0-f44.google.com ([209.85.210.44]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009aob131.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT7tytQOjYPEEIswOo0dM3TqHXHlfDDgf@postini.com; Tue, 22 May 2012 04:04:22 PDT Received: by dacx6 with SMTP id x6so11874571dac.17 for ; Tue, 22 May 2012 04:04:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=jlNVDDLzivdZolU1CWNxE1/oGrGEZ2JRcttRfoSvZrc=; b=NlB474Zg41dB3OauoK5cN/94pgHyk98UgYgoBxjZLev1cx1z2xJ3ouSHJyjjB0Vad0 pSd89OcKl5NN9v9ructcGV/fXGcuTif4JeBVJ+lHtFwVgJd/H1MciOb86b61yY40Am6H 3kC05Cwrv1osaoBDovhoi59l7ZFuj72vUnnDIkqRU9UD01V/Hi2Lg5+SHCBAHgkb3SHK 6hwkbJI4EECLtWlrLLKCRdI8Cxy0zZPsefcVkbcj3zT0xdkZyczJMy6loJYEJXYuo5x9 lgOZDFPsGZ4d0lFD13AI6ulE3D0pJfwB1HEpnOOSrH7YLFXUTvwl1W0WlQ3IHsKsKhom tBaw== Received: by 10.68.227.69 with SMTP id ry5mr9651175pbc.16.1337684660734; Tue, 22 May 2012 04:04:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.227.69 with SMTP id ry5mr9651150pbc.16.1337684660607; Tue, 22 May 2012 04:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.26.232 with HTTP; Tue, 22 May 2012 04:04:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FBB6E6D.8040601@shanecurcuru.org> References: <4FBAEDF2.9030601@shanecurcuru.org> <4FBB3FA1.6020507@apache.org> <4FBB6E6D.8040601@shanecurcuru.org> Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:04:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Comment] Apache software is always free From: Roberto Galoppini To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk13v6GF5MnNCabHiLh3E2yDK56NWqgoMbiX7SXTDN52xaqKxJk4VgjvBti9h3yWG3ydLRp+De55YjoUukWACwS8sn1kw== X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Shane Curcuru wrot= e: > > > On 2012-05-22 3:42 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: >> >> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Andrea Pescetti >> =A0wrote: >>> >>> Shane Curcuru wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.apache.org/free >>>> Any glaring errors? Anything I should add, or express more clearly? >>> >>> >>> >>> I would add, when you state that the Apache License meets the Open Sour= ce >>> Initiative's (OSI) Open Source Definition, that it also meets the Free >>> Software Foundation's Free Software definition and thus it qualifies as >>> Free/Libre software. In the case of OpenOffice, which used to ship unde= r >>> a >>> GNU license, this would be helpful to users who want to be sure that th= e >>> license change gives them more freedom and not less freedom than before= . > > > True, although this URL is meant for ASF-wide use, not just for AOO. =A0S= o I'm > trying to keep the information as simple (and conflict-inducing phrases > free) as possible. =A0But I think a mention that we meet both OSI and FSF > guidelines is worth adding. > > >>> >>> Regards, >>> =A0Andrea. >> >> >> >> Great job Shane, I'd consider a couple of minor changes. >> >> Add in the first paragraph that it can be used for any purpose and you >> can make copies. I know that a careful reader could read it below, but >> many just read the very first paragraph. > > > Good point. > > >> >> I'd consider also to add in the "Is Apache software free to use? May I >> use it for any purpose?" section a couple of hints for who want to >> repackage it, so that we can point this people to thart page. > > > Again, this page is primarily meant to be a memorable URL to provide as a > reference for the "do I ever have to pay for Apache software" type questi= on. Gotcha. > What information for repackagers do you mean? =A0Wouldn't that kind of > information better go on the /legal or /licenses areas anyway? Definitely. Roberto > - Shane > >> >> Roberto --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It= =20 may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the=20 intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination,=20 distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly=20 prohibited. 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