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From Joe Schaefer <>
Subject Re: Competition (was: Clarifying facts)
Date Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:00:34 GMT
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> From: Pedro Giffuni <>
> To:
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Competition (was: Clarifying facts)
> Hi Joe;
> Iwas confused about Simon and his relationship to this project so now
> that it's clear he is not a committer or PPMC member, I do respect that
> he is entitled to his opinion and he is indeed welcome to express it
> here.
> That said ...
> On 03/13/12 17:36, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>>>>    At Apache we aren't in competition with other projects,
>>>>    we provide our work for the public benefit and leave
>>>>    discretion about adoption to the public.  Please keep
>>>>    that in mind, and stick to providing resources that
>>>>    benefit general members of the public.
> In general I am OK with that, but I think here we talk with the code:
> Other projects can take our code and integrate it with their project
> and we like and encourage that but that doesn't mean we are going
> to recommend their project in our webpages or wikis.
> Do you really think we are doing all this hard work to put together
> a release to recommend people to download something else?

Well the thing is, right now the situation is that you haven't released.
What you tell people to do between now and then will change as the facts
change, but informing users about alternatives is actually a way to gain
their respect, and playing silly games to hide those alternatives under
the guise that the truth needs to be colored somehow does a disservice
to your users, and to the reputation of this project as a providing a
public vendor-neutral resource.

> Sure I love the idea of having a great family playing under the same
> umbrella but realistically that is not happening and if people want
> to work with us the best place to do it is here.

Well you still have some harder collective choices to make regarding
interoperability once you start gearing up for a 4.0 release that
may provide an upgrade path for 3.4 users but will diverge from
the plans of the LibreOffice team.  Having an open communication
channel will benefit both communities as well as the entire user
base of both products, don't you think?

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