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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Subject RE: [DISCUSS] easier access for N-L sites during staging process
Date Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:37:49 GMT

A little tuning, for what it is worth:

It is not necessary to subscribe to any of these lists in order to ask for help.  They will
be moderated in.  

It might be nice if the mailto: entry specified a subject that would let us know it is from
the request link though.  That would emphasize that the requester is probably not subscribed
and a direct CC: on any response is called for.
Also, ooo-users might be a better target than ooo-dev.  

And, if within-site relative URLs are used for some cross-references, they will work when
the cut-over happens as if they were always links to http:// * URLs.  That
way it is never necessary to expose addresses.  (Cross references to the
podling site are different, of course and they will hopefully all be redirected on graduation.)

At some point, it should be fixed so redirects to
(even though the pages are actually created at you-know-where, that can be made to work without
looping [;<).  It can also be arranged that is served up
as, etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kay Schenk [] 
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 15:22
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] easier access for N-L sites during staging process

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:14 PM, TJ Frazier <> wrote:

> On 11/3/2011 17:59, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>  I'm thinking of changing the links on:
>>> to the format we're using at the staging site--
>>> and putting a link on the staging home page
>>> to the revised**projects/native-lang.html<>
>>> at the bottom of the menu with something called "Native Language
>>> Federation"
>>> to make it easier for folks to review the N-L sites.
>>> Due to the fact that we are now missing the navigating tabs on the
>>> staging
>>> site, we may want to deal with other areas like this as well for the time
>>> being until a more in-depth discussion is had. This is merely for
>>> checking
>>> content accuracy for the time being.
>>> Are there any problems with this suggestion?
>> +1000
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>> I can probably get this done over the coming weekend sometime.
>>>  Kay,
> You might consider a new column, which would have either a constant like
> "Review" or "New site" (with new link), or be empty for "not moved yet". A
> sentence about "What do I do if I find a problem?" should be aimed at
> unsophisticated end-users.

Well the thing is the sites "are moved" in the sense that they're in the
svn repository for the staging site. I'm not exactly sure what Dave is
doing at the moment in terms of preparation to tell you the truth, but I'm
fairly certain we've got everything that could be had "svn-ing" what was
publicly known .

However, the  "What do I do if I find a problem?" link/page certainly has
merit. About the only thing I could suggest though is an e-mail to this
list (and they need to be subscibed first), and suggest an appropriate
subject title to them so we could spot these things easily. Would something
as simple as that work or what were you thinking?

> --
> /tj/


"This is no social crisis
 Just another tricky day for you."
                 -- "Tricky Day", the Who

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