Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D7AB9DCB for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 96628 invoked by uid 500); 19 Oct 2011 20:40:23 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96587 invoked by uid 500); 19 Oct 2011 20:40:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96565 invoked by uid 99); 19 Oct 2011 20:40:23 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:40:23 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: 208.113.200.5 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of pescetti@openoffice.org) Received: from [208.113.200.5] (HELO homiemail-a92.g.dreamhost.com) (208.113.200.5) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:40:14 +0000 Received: from homiemail-a92.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a92.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9710516206C; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [151.67.87.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: andrea@pescetti.it) by homiemail-a92.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A6507162065; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E9F3594.2000405@openoffice.org> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:39:48 +0200 From: Andrea Pescetti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110906 Fedora/3.1.14-1.fc14 Thunderbird/3.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists References: <4E9F2EE4.1080500@openoffice.org> <4E9F307F.4020501@shanecurcuru.org> In-Reply-To: <4E9F307F.4020501@shanecurcuru.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Shane Curcuru wrote: > Note that I disagree with having three lists; I would far prefer to > start with a single list per NL. No problem about this; I was merely envisioning a structure where we had an "announcements" list (300 subscribers now) and two discussion lists, one for users (consolidating a few lists, 700 subscribers) and one for volunteers (consolidating the remaining ones). But it's not imperative for me to start with 3 lists. > Actually, I'm pretty sure we will not be mass-subscribing users. That is > generally regarded as a very bad idea in Apache projects Here the fundamental issue is that we are transferring mailing lists (and consolidating them in the process); the fact that we will create new lists instead of reconfiguring the current server is merely a technical preference. I'm against auto-subscribing people to new lists too in general, but I do not recognize this case as "creation of new mailing lists": we would just be MOVING mailing lists, in accordance with the old server maintainers, to give continuity to the project. And losing most of our subscribers in the process due to (their!) sloppiness would be a huge setback for OpenOffice.org. Regards, Andrea.