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From Christian Grobmeier <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Review of Forums Agreement
Date Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:08:01 GMT
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Rob Weir <> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Ross Gardler
> <> wrote:
>> On 11 October 2011 22:05, Daniel Shahaf <> wrote:
>>> Rob Weir wrote on Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 15:13:31 -0400:
>>>> To enable list-based discussion of the proposal, I'm pasting in the
>>>> current wiki markup.  This will allow anyone to enter inline
>>>> commentary, as a response, to the quoted original.
>>> Thanks!
>>>> *H.* Should the ASF or the Apache project decide to
>>>> terminate its support of the forums, it will grant a period of at
>>>> least 90 days for the transfer of the contents and structure of the
>>>> forums to another host as decided by the Administrators, Moderators
>>>> and Volunteers.
>>> The PPMC is not empowered to agree to a clause that reads, "The ASF will
>>> grant 90 days to someone".  Only the board and officers can make
>>> commitments on behalf of the org.
>> Whilst this is technically correct in practice the board delegates to
>> its PMCs (that's the IPMC while in the incubator and the AOOo PMC
>> after graduation). I'm not aware of a project entering into such an
>> agreement before so there is no precedent that I'm aware of.
>> The right thing to do in this case is define the agreement you would
>> like to make and have it approved by the legal PMC. If legal@ are
>> happy then the AOOo project can proceed, if not they will recommend a
>> course of action.
> Legal?  That  sounds like extreme overkill.  We're not making a
> contract with an external organization.  We're making an agreement
> with ourselves.  This is a governance question, not a legal one.
> In any case, the right way to handle this is just to take out the
> mention of "ASF".  If indeed the PPMC has delegated authority, then it
> is sufficient to just mention the PPMC.


>> Ross


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