openoffice-dev mailing list archives

Site index · List index
Message view « Date » · « Thread »
Top « Date » · « Thread »
From Rob Weir <>
Subject Re: Making donations to the project
Date Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:13:01 GMT
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Ian Lynch <> wrote:
> This is a transfer of a discussion that started on the private list. It
> started by considering the situation of TeamOO in relation to the ASF. Many
> people over time have made small donations to TeamOO - some probably that
> are philosophically opposed to the Apache license and are committed to LibO
> or even something different. This leaves TeamOO in a difficult position in
> terms of administering the funds they have. ASF policy is that money donated
> simply goes to the ASF not to specific projects. Some would consider that
> the ASF donations system is not very accessible to individuals wanting to
> donate small amounts of money. This discussion is to explore ways of working
> that fit ASF's charitable status and donations policy while enabling those
> that want to make monetary contributions to to be able to do
> so.

1. IMHO (and I have no omniscience here) the problem Team OpenOffice
has is that they are soon to lose the "contribute" link on  Without that, their ability to raise funds is
drastically reduced.  It really shuts off their funding.    No one has
questioned what they did with the funds historically.  It was all used
for the benefit of the community, or at least I've heard no one
suggest otherwise.  But their business model, from a funding
perspective, was highly dependent on having a prominent "contribute"
link on the website, which receives a huge among of
traffic.  So any suggestion that they can simply raise money on their
own, without that link and without the use of the OOo trademark, may
be technically true, but i practice I don't see how that could work.

2. We could substitute a link to make ASF donations.  But my guess is
we would get a drastically smaller catch than the previous Team
OpenOffice link received:

a) ASF has no European entity, so donations are not tax deductible as
charitable contributions in Europe (Is this true?)

b) We're not able to say anything to potential contributors about how
the donations would be used.  All we can say is they will not be used
for the benefit of any specific project, i.e., the donations cannot be
targeted.  We probably lose 90% of the donations right there.

One way out:  Is there any way, with suitable disclaimers,and with
respect of the trademarks,  that we can link to an external non-profit
organization, for those users who want to contribute to the larger OOo
ecosystem?  A link that we put along the link to the ASF donation
page?  Maybe as part of a link exchange, where they agree to link as
well to the ASF donation page?


> That is an attempt to summarise the discussion. If I got anything important
> wrong or left anything out please comment accordingly.
> --
> Ian
> Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ)
> +44 (0)1827 305940
> The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth,
> Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and
> Wales.

View raw message