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From "Marcus (OOo)" <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Having New Committers also be on the PPMC
Date Sun, 02 Oct 2011 17:08:17 GMT


Am 10/02/2011 01:06 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> On 09/30/2011 11:31 AM, Simon Phipps wrote:
>> On 30 Sep 2011, at 19:15, Rob Weir wrote:
>>> We have never adopted a formal position of having everyone be a
>>> committer and PPMC member. So if we did not change anything, we
>>> would still not have such a policy. I'm not arguing against the
>>> status quo of not having such a policy.
>> You appear to be arguing against the status quo of all new committers
>> joining the PPMC though. So my question remains, is there really a
>> problem with waiting until graduation to adjust this project's PMC?
>> My sense is that the project is still in a formative stage and will
>> need significant changes to the PMC before graduation - it has a
>> number of PMC members who in a normal Apache project would not even
>> be committers, for example. Once the dynamics of a fully functional
>> project are evident I would expect to see a more complete rethink.
>> The partial move of restricting admission to the PPMC now is
>> counterintuitive if there is no current harm being done.
>> S.
> I'm inclined to go with Simon's reasoning on this issue. In other words,
> leave the invitation to new committers as is -- with invitation to the
> PPMC also.
> We are still very much in the formative stage here at Apache, and,
> without extended PPMC membership, we may actually miss extending
> additional invitations to folks (only PPMC members can do this) who are
> truly valuable based on a new member's involvement for one.
> There are many items which can be passed by "lazy consensus". If PPMC
> members choose NOT to involve themselves in these aspects, so what.
> I see NO harm at all at continuing the current invitation process during
> the podling process.

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