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Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 20:52:52 +0200
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Hi Pedro,

the build system has a simple mechanism to download all tarballs from an
external URL. As Rob described, this happens automatically on
"bootstrapping" the build system. (Once downloaded the first time you
can reuse the stuff in later builds with the "--with-external-tar" switch.)

This works on all platforms. We just need a reliable space for them.

Regards,
Mathias

Am 07.09.2011 20:05, schrieb Pedro Giffuni:

>  Hi,
> 
>  Probably it's not an issue, but I would expect Windows
>  people to find it easier to download one big tarball
>  than to go down hunting individual packages.
> 
>  On the BSDs and linux we have the packages in one
>  place with many maintaners to help so it's not an
>  issue at all.
> 
>  Cheers,
> 
>  Pedro.
> 
>  On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:48:35 -0700, "Dennis E. Hamilton" 
>  <dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:
>> Listing external dependencies seems important no matter what platform
>> we build for.
>>
>> Why difficult for Windows?  Explain please.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pedro F. Giffuni [mailto:giffunip@tutopia.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 09:21
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Who wants to build OpenOffice?
>>
>> FWIW,
>>
>> The external sources include a lot of stuff that is
>> outdated and there may even be security risks involved.
>>
>> I think I posted a list of outdated stuff before and
>> on FreeBSD I made sure we carry natively the latest
>> versions (with some care for compatibility).
>>
>> Also there's the issue that was discussed already of
>> having an external ICU and dictionaries.
>>
>> I do think that for linux/BSD distributions adding a
>> list of dependencies would just be better in the long
>> run, but that would make life more difficult for
>> Windows.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Pedro.
>>
>> --- On Wed, 9/7/11, Eike Rathke <ooo@erack.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mathias,
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 2011-09-07 00:32:40 +0200, Mathias Bauer
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > >> 6) The bootstrap was pulling down
>>> dependencies from Hg.  We need to
>>> > >> get those into SVN or Apache-Extras, right?
>>> > >
>>> > > Yes.
>>> >
>>> > Really? The "dependencies" (I assume these are the
>>> external tarballs)
>>> > are not stored in a Mercurial repo.
>>>
>>> Correct, I just overread "hg" and concluded there needs to
>>> be a place
>>> for the external tarballs.
>>>
>>> > Nevertheless we have to find a place
>>> > for them - or to get back to the old procedure that
>>> stored them inside
>>> > the repo.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't do that, being part of the repo we'd lose the
>>> --with-external-tar=... capability and a checkout really
>>> does not need
>>> to include them.
>>>
>>> > At least those that have a suitable license.
>>>
>>> Of course.
>>>
>>>   Eike
>>>
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