Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BFED713B for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2011 15:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14683 invoked by uid 500); 6 Sep 2011 15:46:40 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 14638 invoked by uid 500); 6 Sep 2011 15:46:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 14630 invoked by uid 99); 6 Sep 2011 15:46:40 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:46:40 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [213.123.26.187] (HELO mail.btconnect.com) (213.123.26.187) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:46:31 +0000 Received: from host81-158-1-184.range81-158.btcentralplus.com (EHLO _127.0.0.1_) ([81.158.1.184]) by c2beaomr09.btconnect.com with ESMTP id EGZ88903; Tue, 06 Sep 2011 16:41:56 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4E663F41.3090503@btconnect.com> Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 16:41:53 +0100 From: David McKay User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/6.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: What is needed for Support Forums to be fully integrated into the Apache OpenOffice.org project References: <4E654A51.90508@laposte.net> <009601cc6ca5$1bbb11b0$53313510$@acm.org> In-Reply-To: <009601cc6ca5$1bbb11b0$53313510$@acm.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110906-0, 06/09/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Worst-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0301.4E663F44.0007, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2011.9.6.150315:17:7.763, ip=81.158.1.184, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL, __URI_NO_WWW, __URI_NO_PATH, SUPERLONG_LINE, BODY_SIZE_1900_1999, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr09.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0208.4E664042.0191,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2010-07-22 22:03:31, dmn=2009-09-10 00:05:08, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 06/09/2011 15:56, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Christian, > > What I find awkward around all of these discussions is that there are already several Apache OOo PPMC members who were and are already administrators and moderators on the OpenOffice.org forums, and not one of them stood up here, on ooo-dev, and said so. > > It boggles my mind how much withholding is going on. > > - Dennis Not strictly true. I've said several times that I was a moderator on the forums. This is getting to too much like the emperor's new clothes. Does it have to be more complicated than this: agree the high-level points and them work out the detail. As far as i can see the main points are as follows. 1) The forums bring great value to the Ooo community and project alike. The more help the end users get the better. The more bugs that are brought to our attention and find their way into bugzilla the better. It is already one well-founded and respected face of OOo to the outside world. 2) The forums need a new home. 3) For that home to be under the Apache umbrella, as a minimum, it requires some tweaking of the forum management/administration, or at least, a permanent visible record of the management/administration actions. 4) Collaboratively, we ought to be able to get this done. Dave. > -----Original Message----- > From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobmeier@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 02:58 > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: What is needed for Support Forums to be fully integrated into the Apache OpenOffice.org project > >> We are a group of users who believes in OOo. >> We like to help other users through forums (some like ML, we prefer forum, >> that's life). > This all and then tons of work you already have done (up to 18.000 > posts!!) should make you eligible as an ASF committer. > > Cheers > > [ ... ] > >