Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04B5A7401 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 13:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 65639 invoked by uid 500); 9 Aug 2011 13:21:14 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 65551 invoked by uid 500); 9 Aug 2011 13:21:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 65543 invoked by uid 99); 9 Aug 2011 13:21:13 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:21:13 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of apache@robweir.com designates 69.89.24.6 as permitted sender) Received: from [69.89.24.6] (HELO oproxy9.bluehost.com) (69.89.24.6) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:21:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 1610 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2011 13:20:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host181.hostmonster.com) (74.220.207.181) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2011 13:20:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=robweir.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version; bh=Yc8IiXkZnXDh3V0HohTznvSH+VkRRCeVih6CF1+X9+g=; b=dubosZIZ2swNdlZPyd2nChWyEOZIOLwCywYJHRNc8NtMVkp6ABC/7XHhpq1k3d5dvrI3f55Nwgfdf9ZGV4Kx6jUjTdPovSkmuIMISQFUqOoEkkaEmKru0LegccwcNqDt; Received: from mail-gw0-f47.google.com ([74.125.83.47]) by host181.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QqmEd-0007qa-Fa for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2011 07:20:43 -0600 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11so2223765gwb.6 for ; Tue, 09 Aug 2011 06:20:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.59.142 with SMTP id wo14mr1599250icb.373.1312896042567; Tue, 09 Aug 2011 06:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.223.1 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 06:20:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 09:20:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FAQ on the Oracle contribution and migration plans? From: Rob Weir To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Identified-User: {1114:host181.hostmonster.com:robweirh:robweir.com} {sentby:smtp auth 74.125.83.47 authed with apache@robweir.com} X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > We've seen now twice the rumor mill in action. A month ago it was due > to a water pipe breaking and causing the Kenai data center to be > temporarily shut down. And just yesterday it was a mistaken > interpretation of a download error and inability to ping some servers > where ping was administratively disabled, that led to wild > speculations that Oracle as preemptively disabling their servers > before we could migrate. =C2=A0The first rumor made it into the press. = =C2=A0The > second, fortunately, was squashed before the false rumor spread too > far. > > Oracle has stated repeatedly that they are committed to aiding with > the migration to Apache. Andrew has done well squashing rumors when > they pop up, but with the timezone difference this can take several > hours. =C2=A0But since this seems to reoccur at regular intervals, for > various reasons, I wonder if this would merit one or more FAQ's: > Just to be clear, I'm volunteering to put this up on the web site. But I would like to make sure we have consensus on the responses. > 1) How should I report outages of OpenOffice.org services? > I assume all outages should be reported to the ooo-dev list? Once the migration starts it is impossible for the average end user to determine whether the service is hosted by Oracle or Apache. So better to just report everything here. > 2) What is the migration plan for moving OpenOffice.org on to Apache > infrastructure? > We should point to the plans on the wiki, perhaps with a few general comments on the goals. > 3) What is Oracle contributing to Apache? > Is there an authoritative statement on this? I know there is an SGA, but that is not public. So what can we say here? I'd prefer to link to an authoritative statement by Oracle on what they are committed to contributing (even if in general terms). > 4) How much longer will Oracle keep their OpenOffice servers up? Will > they shut them down without notice? > Again, I'd love to point to an authoritative statement, since that would work best to squash the rumor mill the next time. > Answers to these questions might go in the Community FAQ's section of > the web page: > > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/community-faqs.html > > Then, the next time the rumors come up (and yes, there will be a next > time) we can point to the FAQ. > > -Rob >