Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFF9786A5 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 44311 invoked by uid 500); 14 Aug 2011 15:27:18 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 44090 invoked by uid 500); 14 Aug 2011 15:27:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 44082 invoked by uid 99); 14 Aug 2011 15:27:17 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:27:17 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of simon@webmink.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.175] (HELO mail-wy0-f175.google.com) (74.125.82.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:27:10 +0000 Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so3400532wyf.6 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.200.212 with SMTP id ex20mr2719858wbb.89.1313335610219; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.7] (172.79.2.81.in-addr.arpa [81.2.79.172]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fm9sm3844916wbb.61.2011.08.14.08.26.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Fundraising From: Simon Phipps In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 16:26:41 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <44728309-045F-4E93-990C-799104211E9A@webmink.com> References: <20110813184551.GA31794@ulungele.erack.de> <4E471557.4070903@the-martin-byrd.net> <4E4733DB.9030207@the-martin-byrd.net> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 14 Aug 2011, at 16:23, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Simon Phipps = wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>=20 >>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Simon Phipps = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> On 14 Aug 2011, at 14:24, Rob Weir wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> We have a trademark policy that states what uses are permitted = without >>>>> additional permission, and which uses may be allowed with specific >>>>> permission from Apache. The policy does not differ based the >>>>> incorporation status of the requestor. However, the application = of >>>>> the policy, on a case by cases basis, will obviously take into = account >>>>> the specific circumstances of the request. >>>>=20 >>>> All true with regard to the use of trademarks, but mostly = orthogonal to >>> the question of the AOOo project's attitude towards third-party = fundraisers. >>> AOOo is in a unique position compared with all prior Apache projects = of >>> which I am aware and the various comments on this thread indicate we = need to >>> give thoughtful and clear guidance. >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Agreed. But this guidance comes in response to thoughtful and clear >>> proposal from an organization that wishes to use the trademark. >>>=20 >>=20 >> Assuming you mean TeamOOo, does that mean you believe their name is a >> trademark infringement? >>=20 >=20 > You are making a false assumption. We don't have a proposal from = TeamOOo. Which non-profit fundraiser (the subject of the conversation at this = stage) were you referring to then? S.