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On Jun 18, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:

> Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos)
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> On 18 Jun 2011, at 18:34, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> Ross,
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>> Drew had a long description. If that gives you any clarity.
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> It does now I've read it more carefully, thanks (and to Drew)
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>>> Can you please clarify the legal status of the content on the =
forums?
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>> This is apparently the license: http://openoffice.org/terms_of_use
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> I think this ought to be discussed on legal-discuss, specifically 3a =
which indicates "some materials" may be under terms different to these, =
and 4c which gives a right to sublicence but not a copyright grant, thus =
we can't relicence. 4e indicates that some "projects" might be under =
different terms requiring a CLA.=20
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> As ever (for me) reading the T&Cs give me more questions than answers.=20=


Me too! So, who should take it to legal-discuss? Sam? Someone from the =
PPMC?

I want to do technical and organizational work, licenses can make my =
head explode.

Regards,
Dave

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> Ross
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>> Here is what Zoltan wrote:
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>> On Jun 18, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Reizinger Zolt=C3=A1n wrote:
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>>> Hi Andy,
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>>> 2011.06.18. 15:46 keltez=C3=A9ssel, Andy Brown =C3=ADrta:
>>>> Hi Zoltan,
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>> snip.
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>>>> Good to see you here. :)  Terry and I have been in contact an he =
corrected me on his role as Admin.  He also told me that the license for =
the Forums is Copyleft which, if I understand correctly will prevent =
them from being on ASF servers.  If they are part of the grant then I =
guess that could change.  I am looking as some alternate options in case =
ASF can not host the forums.
>>> The forums have link to the terms of use: =
http://openoffice.org/terms_of_use
>>> This link was on all the time while the forum runs.
>>> For my best knowledge, never was problem wit that.
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>>> Now it is contain ASF 2.0 license for codes, I see no problems to =
licensing.
>>> Usually no source codes submitted to forums.
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>>> Zoltan
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>> Regards,
>> Dave
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>>> We've been told code is Apache licensed, but what about the content?
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>>> This same question applies to the content on the user mail lists =
(asked about elsewhere in this thread).=20
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>>> Ross
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>>> Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos)
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>>> On 18 Jun 2011, at 18:14, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>>> On Jun 18, 2011, at 9:33 AM, eric b wrote:
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>>>>> OOops, sorry, should read:
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>>>>> "Can someone explain why OOo4Kids and OOoLight are missing in this =
list ?"
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>>>> Thanks for the reminder.
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>>>> As for explanations the Apache podling and committers are still =
getting organized. The project website is just there and we had our =
first commits in our SVN repos just last night - the website. We are =
waiting on Wikis. Haven't decided on Bugzilla vs. JIRA ...
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>>>> Keep watching and tell use what you need. "Patches are welcome", =
but we don't have much to patch yet.
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>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Dave
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>>>>> Regards,,
>>>>> Eric Bachard
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>>>>> q=C9=94=E1=B4=89=C9=B9=C9=99
>>>>> Education Project:
>>>>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project
>>>>> Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
>>>>> L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
>>>>> Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
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