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From Dave Fisher <>
Subject Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)
Date Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:17:05 GMT
Hey Guys,

The requirement that has been identified is for a type of IRC chat bot with the Issue Tracker.
This is done currently in ASF for Infrastructure with JIRA. It might be possible for Bugzilla,
but that is not currently used. That's not to say that Infra won't do it.

We are looking for more detail about the size of the OOo bugzilla database. How large is the
backup, and what database is being used? This is the information that Infrastructure needs
to know if they have a preference about our choice.

I am attempting to supplement the list of "non-code" ancillary items we should consider requesting
from Oracle. I realize that there is some catharsis to airing out the situation, but can you
do it in another venue, this doesn't help us move forward.

Others are discussing the build ...

Best Regards,

On Jun 17, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

> Hi Heiner, *,
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Jens-Heiner Rechtien <> wrote:
>> On 06/17/2011 04:42 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Jens-Heiner Rechtien<>
>>>  wrote:
>>>> On 06/17/2011 03:57 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Daniel Shahaf<>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> Christian Lohmaier wrote on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:43:04 +0200:
>>> [...]
>>>> I'm pretty
>>>> sure they would have fixed this later.
>>> Later? I doubt it.
>> Why?
> "later" is the answer for everything that is not going to happen.
> "Later" was also the answer to the mailing-list archive URLs.
> Same as "requirements" for Issues.
> But in the current case: There was absolutely no interest in the
> problem itself.
> Anything that was related to infrastructure came to a halt and then
> continues up till today to a almost non-bearable extent. Starting with
> buildbots and buildmaster (both the software as well as the Mac
> -hardware that was donated to the project and hosted at the former
> Sun-Office in HH), continuing with the comparably tiny bugzilla issue,
> did continue with the basically non-availablility of the
> extensions-website, the unavailability of pootle and also includes the
> always-has-been-a-topic of preserving mailinglist-URLs/having a way to
> map old URLs to the new infrastructure.
> So sorry if I don't really have trust in "later" arguments when it
> comes to infrastructure that is in Oracle's governance/responsibility.
> You have to beg for even getting an answer (and while the answer then
> was "person who dealt with that stuff moved on/now has other tasks, so
> no fix in sight" this is better than no reply at all.
> And yes, now this is moot, however especially for the extensions and
> pootle servers, "you" need to be a solution soon.
> And yes, you are right, of course I did knew about TDF at that time,
> mixed things up here.
> And yes, I'm aware that the extensions site is hosted by OSUOSL, so I
> cannot really blame "Oracle" but I also know that this is not a
> for-free hosting, but that OSUOSL did receive compensation for running
> the services (as I happened to be involved in approving this expense
> in December 2009/January 2010 - and even if it was a one-time payment
> of 5000 € only). But after all this doesn't matter, as all those who
> have the corresponding contacts/those who could do something about it
> happen to be Oracle employees, so the circle closes.
> ciao
> Christian

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