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Is it stable reproducible? On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 15:22, Alvaro wrote: > ...a red message: > > OperationError: Expects at least 4 fields. > > > > > ......................... > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 10:12 +0200, Alvaro escribi=C3=B3: > > ...Safari 11.1.2 on "El Capitan OS". > > > > .................. > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 14:57 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribi=C3=B3: > > > this is definitely not the result I'm seeing :(((I do have green > > > bar in Safari 11 .... > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 14:49, Alvaro wrote: > > > > ...Safari 11.1.2 in Demo-next Private Room, > > > > > > > > there is not green bar mic sound. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ............. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 09:20 +0200, Alvaro escribi=C3=B3: > > > > > > > > > ...in: > > > > > > > > > https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/ > > > > > > > > > ...Private Room, Safari 13.1.1 there is not green barof mic > > > > sound. > > > > > > > > > Do you need any other test? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ............ > > > > > > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 14:05 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > escribi=C3=B3: > > > > > > > > > > And demo-next doesn't work? > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 14:04, Alvaro > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Maxim, Sebastian, in: > > > > > > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/a > > > > udio/ > > > > > > > > > > > ...Safari 13.1.1 works right mic sound. > > > > > > > > > > > Am goeing to test the others versions and will tell you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ............... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:30 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > escribi=C3=B3: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can someone else with Safari 11-12-13 test audio? > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe all versions of Safari requires some additional > > > > options > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > be turned > > > > > > > > > > > > ON ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:19, Stefan K=C3=BChl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe we can figure out if the settings for safari13 > > > > can help > > > > > > > > > > > > > and this > > > > > > > > > > > > > could be solved fast. Otherwise I prefer to release and > > > > set > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > solution for thwe next release to have enough time for > > > > > > > > > > > > > investigation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 27.07.2020 08:14, schrieb Maxim Solodovnik: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari 13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this might give as some insight of what can be > > > > improved > > > > > > > > > > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ > > > > trying to > > > > > > > > > > > > > investigate > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari 11 ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wagner@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > r@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No but the generic test application at > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getusermed > > > > ia/aud > > > > > > > > > > > > > io > > > > > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems to work better now after restarting my Mac. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup application > > > > seems > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > not do > > > > > > > > > > > > > much when recording the stream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari13 and > > > > > > > > > > > > > enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome however works > > > > fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > af6f- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 490 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 33f10d60a/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9faf- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 099 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 038475e36/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > l.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC" > > > > submenu > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Develop" > > > > > > > > > > > > > menu > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have it on Safari 13? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you "play" with options? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wagner@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > r@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for > > > > audio/video: > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Sa > > > > fari_1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > audio > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Adds support for new web technologies such as > > > > WebRTC > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Media > > > > Capture API, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Resource > > > > > > > > > > > > > Timing API, WebAssembly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sembly>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > y#cite > > > > > > > > > > > > > _n > > > > > > > > > > > > > ote-63> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of changes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-releas > > > > e- > > > > > > > > > > > > > notes/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > safari-13-release-notes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be good > > > > to get > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > few more > > > > > > > > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13. > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the issue is really a generic Safari13 limitation or > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-a > > > > f6f- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4903 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9 > > > > faf- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 38475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > l.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll try to find newer iMac, but have no idea where > > > > ATM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :((( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be on vacation 1-15 August without any access > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internet (maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > occasional access to mobile internet) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to release before my vacation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it is possible? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, seba.wagner@gmail.com < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seba.wagner@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm using Safari 13 and it doesn't work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I think I'm not alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-a > > > > f6f- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4903 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9 > > > > faf- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 38475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:34, Maxim Solodovnik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Sebastian, All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just was able to get real iMac to test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It has Safari 11 (and I have no rights to update > > > > it) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything works as expected > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tested demo-next as-is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My steps were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) on Safari enter restricted room > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) start Audio only broadcasting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Result: green sound bar is jumping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) enter same room Ubuntu 20.04+Chromium latest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Result: I can hear the audio in the room > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will have access to the iMac for couple more > > > > hours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please let me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if I should do any additional tests > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 04:32, seba.wagner@gmail.c > > > > om > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .wagner@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As reported in a few email discussions: Safari > > > > on iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does not capture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > audio. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We could establish that playback is fine. But > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > capturing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > audio does not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are currently two tickets we have: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - Fixing the capture of > > > > audio on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conference room (some other subject but we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > established > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that that's the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > root > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cause) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - Fixing the capture of > > > > audio on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > setup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > testing tool > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are various discussions where some think > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > code change on our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > end > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would fix it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure about that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be even the official webRTC > > > > samples > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > broken for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See for example webRTC samples section: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/ge > > > > tuserm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ia/audio/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D> Works in Chrome/iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D> Fails in Safari/iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also started a discussion at discuss-webRTC : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/discuss- > > > > > > > > > > > > > webrtc/c/XBeiy3GpVLg/m/kbsC > > > > > > > > > > > > > U25IBgAJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion: Fixing this issue inside > > > > OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rather > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > complex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is a lot of other code. So I would like > > > > to see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > simple minimal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > code > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > example to start with. If that works fine, I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > convinced we can fix it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenMeetings too! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are there other opinions or ideas on how to > > > > approach > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is no reply or not an answer on > > > > discuss- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > webRTC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to interview people at Kurento mailing lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-a > > > > f6f- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4903 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9 > > > > faf- > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0990 > > > > > > > > > > > > > 38475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > > > Maxim --=20 Best regards, Maxim --000000000000eee5b305ab680bf0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
this is known issue and I believe it shouldn't arisecan you reload the page?
Is it stable reproducible?

On Mo= n, 27 Jul 2020 at 15:22, Alvaro <z= urcamos@gmail.com> wrote:
...a red message:

OperationError: Expects at least 4 fields.




.........................

El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 10:12 +0200, Alvaro escribi=C3=B3:
> ...Safari 11.1.2 on "El Capitan OS".
>
> ..................
>
> El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 14:57 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribi=C3=B3:<= br> > > this is definitely not the result I'm seeing :(((I do have gr= een
> > bar in Safari=C2=A011 ....
> > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 14:49, Alvaro <zurcamos@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > ...Safari 11.1.2 in Demo-next=C2=A0 Private Room,
> > >
> > > there is not green bar mic sound.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > .............
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 09:20 +0200, Alvaro escribi=C3=B3:<= br> > > >
> > > > ...in:
> > >
> > > > https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/
> > >
> > > > ...Private Room, Safari 13.1.1 there is not green barof= mic
> > > sound.
> > >
> > > > Do you need any other test?
> > >
> > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > ............
> > >
> > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 14:05 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik<= br> > > > escribi=C3=B3:
> > >
> > > > > And demo-next doesn't work?
> > >
> > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 14:04, Alvaro <zurcamos@gmail.com>=
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > Hello Maxim, Sebastian,=C2=A0=C2=A0in:
> > >
> > > > > > https://web= rtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/a
> > > udio/
> > >
> > > > > > ...Safari 13.1.1 works right mic sound.
> > >
> > > > > > Am goeing to test the others versions and wil= l tell you.
> > >
> > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > ...............
> > >
> > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:30 +0700, Maxim S= olodovnik
> > > escribi=C3=B3:
> > >
> > > > > > > Can someone else with Safari 11-12-13 te= st audio?
> > >
> > > > > > > Maybe all versions of Safari requires so= me additional
> > > options
> > >
> > > > > > > to
> > >
> > > > > > > be turned
> > >
> > > > > > > ON ?
> > >
> > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:19, Stefan K= =C3=BChl
> > >
> > > > > > > <stefan@quatrekuehl.eu>
> > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > Maybe we can figure out if the sett= ings for safari13
> > > can help
> > >
> > > > > > > > and this
> > >
> > > > > > > > could be solved fast. Otherwise I p= refer to release and
> > > set
> > >
> > > > > > > > the
> > >
> > > > > > > > Safari13
> > >
> > > > > > > > solution for thwe next release to h= ave enough time for
> > >
> > > > > > > > investigation.
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > Greetz
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > Stefan
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > Am 27.07.2020 08:14, schrieb Maxim = Solodovnik:
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC swi= tches can enable sound
> > > at
> > >
> > > > > > > > Safari 13
> > >
> > > > > > > > And this might give as some insight= of what can be
> > > improved
> > >
> > > > > > > > (not sure if generic test applicati= on is useful anyhow)
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > @All,
> > >
> > > > > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent add= itional month+
> > > trying to
> > >
> > > > > > > > investigate
> > >
> > > > > > > > Safari 11 ?
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wagner@gmail.com=
> > >
> > > > > > > > <seba.wagne
> > >
> > > > > > > > r@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > No but the generic test application= at
> > >
> > > > > > > > https= ://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getusermed
> > > ia/aud
> > >
> > > > > > > > io
> > >
> > > > > > > > /
> > >
> > > > > > > > =C2=A0seems to work better now afte= r restarting my Mac.
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > However the OpenMeetings applicatio= n setup application
> > > seems
> > >
> > > > > > > > to
> > >
> > > > > > > > not do
> > >
> > > > > > > > much when recording the stream.
> > >
> > > > > > > > And there is no level-meter when au= dio/mic is enabled.
> > >
> > > > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2= nd device when using
> > >
> > > > > > > > Safari13 and
> > >
> > > > > > > > enabling mic on the Safari device. = Chrome however works
> > > fine.
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > >
> > > > > > > > Seb
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > >
> > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > >
> > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co= .nz/
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > <ht= tps://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-
> > > af6f-
> > >
> > > > > > > > 490
> > >
> > > > > > > > 33f10d60a/public_url>
> > >
> > > > > > > > <ht= tps://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-
> > > 9faf-
> > >
> > > > > > > > 099
> > >
> > > > > > > > 038475e36/public_url>
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim= Solodovnik
> > >
> > > > > > > > <solomax666@gmai
> > >
> > > > > > > > l.com>
> > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noti= ced some "WebRTC"
> > > submenu
> > >
> > > > > > > > in
> > >
> > > > > > > > "Develop"
> > >
> > > > > > > > menu
> > >
> > > > > > > > Do you have it on Safari 13?
> > >
> > > > > > > > Can you "play" with optio= ns?
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wagner@gmail.com=
> > >
> > > > > > > > <seba.wagne
> > >
> > > > > > > > r@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduce= d support for
> > > audio/video:
> > >
> > > > > > > > https= ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Sa
> > > fari_1
> > >
> > > > > > > > 1
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0- Includes update= d media controls for HTML5 video
> > > and
> > >
> > > > > > > > audio
> > >
> > > > > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0- Adds support fo= r new web technologies such as
> > > WebRTC
> > >
> > > > > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<ht= tps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>, Media
> > > Capture API,
> > >
> > > > > > > > Resource
> > >
> > > > > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Timing API, WebAs= sembly
> > >
> > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.= org/wiki/WebAs
> > >
> > > > > > > > sembly>,
> > >
> > > > > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0variable fonts, C= SS strokes and more.[63]
> > >
> > > > > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_histor
> > > y#cite
> > >
> > > > > > > > _n
> > >
> > > > > > > > ote-63>
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there are qui= te a lot of changes
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > https= ://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-releas
> > > e-
> > >
> > > > > > > > notes/
> > >
> > > > > > > > safari-13-release-notes
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not = sure, would be good
> > > to get
> > >
> > > > > > > > a
> > >
> > > > > > > > few more
> > >
> > > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13.
> > >
> > > > > > > > If the issue is really a generic Sa= fari13 limitation or
> > > not.
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers
> > >
> > > > > > > > Seb
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > >
> > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > >
> > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co= .nz/
> > >
> > > > > > > > <
> > >
> > > > > > > > https= ://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-a
> > > f6f-
> > >
> > > > > > > > 4903
> > >
> > > > > > > > 3f10d60a/public_url
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > <
> > >
> > > > > > > > https= ://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9
> > > faf-
> > >
> > > > > > > > 0990
> > >
> > > > > > > > 38475e36/public_url
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim= Solodovnik
> > >
> > > > > > > > <solomax666@gmai
> > >
> > > > > > > > l.com>
> > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > Well,
> > >
> > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > I'll try to find newer iMa= c, but have no idea where
> > > ATM
> > >
> > > > > > > > > :(((
> > >
> > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > I will be on vacation 1-15 Aug= ust without any access
> > > to
> > >
> > > > > > > > > internet (maybe
> > >
> > > > > > > > > occasional access to mobile in= ternet)
> > >
> > > > > > > > > I thought to release before my= vacation
> > >
> > > > > > > > > Do you think it is possible? > > >
> > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, = seba.wagner@gmai= l.com <
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > seba.wagner@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm using Safari 13 a= nd it doesn't work.
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > And I think I'm not a= lone.
> > >
> > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > Seb
> > >
> > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutio= ns
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-so= lutions.co.nz/
> > >
> > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > <
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > https= ://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-a
> > > f6f-
> > >
> > > > > > > > 4903
> > >
> > > > > > > > 3f10d60a/public_url
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > <
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > https= ://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9
> > > faf-
> > >
> > > > > > > > 0990
> > >
> > > > > > > > 38475e36/public_url
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17= :34, Maxim Solodovnik
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > <solomax666@
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello Sebastian, All= ,
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I just was able to g= et real iMac to test
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It has Safari 11 (an= d I have no rights to update
> > > it)
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Everything works as = expected
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have tested demo-n= ext as-is
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > My steps were
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1) on Safari enter r= estricted room
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 2) start Audio only = broadcasting
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Result: green sound = bar is jumping
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 3) enter same room U= buntu 20.04+Chromium latest
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Result: I can hear t= he audio in the room
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I will have access t= o the iMac for couple more
> > > hours,
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > please let me
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > know
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > if I should do any a= dditional tests
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 = at 04:32, seba.wagner@gmail.c
> > > om
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > <seba
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > .wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > As reported in = a few email discussions: Safari
> > > on iOS
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > does not captur= e
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > audio.
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > We could establ= ish that playback is fine. But
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > capturing
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > audio does not<= br> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > work.
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > There are curre= ntly two tickets we have:
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > =C2=A0- OPENMEE= TINGS-2277 - Fixing the capture of
> > > audio on
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS in > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > conference room= (some other subject but we
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > established
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > that that's= the
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > root
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > cause)
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > =C2=A0- OPENMEE= TINGS-2412 - Fixing the capture of
> > > audio on
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS in > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > setup
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > testing tool > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > There are vario= us discussions where some think
> > > some
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > code change on = our
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > end
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > would fix it. > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure a= bout that.
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > There seems to = be even the official webRTC
> > > samples
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > broken for
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Safari/iOS:
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > See for example= webRTC samples section:
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/ge
> > > tuserm
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ed
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ia/audio/
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > =3D> Works i= n Chrome/iOS
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > =3D> Fails i= n Safari/iOS
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I also started = a discussion at discuss-webRTC :
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > https://groups.google.co= m/g/discuss-
> > >
> > > > > > > > webrtc/c/XBeiy3GpVLg/m/kbsC
> > >
> > > > > > > > U25IBgAJ
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion: = Fixing this issue inside
> > > OpenMeetings
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > rather
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > complex.
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > As
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > there is a lot = of other code. So I would like
> > > to see
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > simple minimal<= br> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > code
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > example to star= t with. If that works fine, I'm
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > convinced we ca= n fix it
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > OpenMeetings to= o!
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Are there other= opinions or ideas on how to
> > > approach
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > this ?
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > If there is no = reply or not an answer on
> > > discuss-
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > webRTC=C2=A0 > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I would also > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > to interview pe= ople at Kurento mailing lists.
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagne= r
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrake= en Solutions
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://a= rrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > https= ://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-a
> > > f6f-
> > >
> > > > > > > > 4903
> > >
> > > > > > > > 3f10d60a/public_url
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > <
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > https= ://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9
> > > faf-
> > >
> > > > > > > > 0990
> > >
> > > > > > > > 38475e36/public_url
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Maxim
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > >
> > > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > > > > > > > Maxim
> > >
> > > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > >
> > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > > > > > > Maxim
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > >
> > > > > > > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > > > > > > Maxim
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > >=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > --=C2=A0
> > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > > > Maxim
> >
> > --=C2=A0
> > Best regards,
> > Maxim


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