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From Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
Subject Re: Ideas
Date Wed, 15 Aug 2018 11:30:46 GMT
Hi Maxim,

maybe I have time in the evening, otherwise tomorrow...

Greetings Peter

Am 15.08.2018 um 12:44 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Hello Peter,
>
> please provide new translation, I believe you don't need to wait for 
> new English strings for this :)
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:10 PM Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de 
> <mailto:daehn@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
>     I could provide the German translation. Shall I wait till it is
>     included and just provide just the changed xml?
>
>     Greetings Peter
>
>     Am 15.08.2018 um 09:24 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1921
>>
>>     Here is the list of current labels:
>>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.audio.grant"><![CDATA[Allow this user to
>>     use microphone]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.audio.revoke"><![CDATA[Deny this user to
>>     use microphone]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.audio.request"><![CDATA[I would like to
>>     use microphone]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.exclusive.grant"><![CDATA[Allow this user
>>     to mute others]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.exclusive.revoke"><![CDATA[Deny this user
>>     to mute others]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.exclusive.request"><![CDATA[I would like
>>     to get the right for exclusive audio]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.moderator.grant"><![CDATA[Grant moderator
>>     rights to this user]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.moderator.revoke"><![CDATA[Remove
>>     moderator role from this user]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.moderator.request"><![CDATA[Apply to be a
>>     moderator]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.presenter.grant"><![CDATA[Grant presenter
>>     rights to this user]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.presenter.revoke"><![CDATA[Remove
>>     presenter role from this user]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.presenter.request"><![CDATA[I would like
>>     to be presenter]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.remote.grant"><![CDATA[Allow Remote
>>     Control (during screen sharing)]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.remote.revoke"><![CDATA[Deny Remote
>>     Control (during screen sharing)]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.remote.request"><![CDATA[Apply for right
>>     to Remote Control Screen (during screen sharing)]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.share.grant"><![CDATA[Allow user to share
>>     screen/record]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.share.revoke"><![CDATA[Deny user to share
>>     screen/record]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.share.request"><![CDATA[I would like to
>>     share/record screen.]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.video.grant"><![CDATA[Allow this user to
>>     publish their audio/video]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.video.revoke"><![CDATA[Remove audio/video
>>     of this user]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.video.request"><![CDATA[I would like to
>>     share my audio/video]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.wb.grant"><![CDATA[Allow to draw on
>>     whiteboard]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.wb.revoke"><![CDATA[Remove ability to
>>     draw on whiteboard]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="ulist.right.wb.request"><![CDATA[I would like to draw
>>     on the whiteboard]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="activities.request.right.moderator"><![CDATA[would
>>     like to be moderator of this room.]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="activities.request.right.presenter"><![CDATA[would
>>     like to be presenter]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="activities.request.right.wb"><![CDATA[would like to
>>     draw on whiteboard]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="activities.request.right.share"><![CDATA[would like
>>     to share/record screen.]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="activities.request.right.remote"><![CDATA[would like
>>     to remote control screen.]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="activities.request.right.audio"><![CDATA[would like
>>     to use micropone]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="activities.request.right.video"><![CDATA[would like
>>     to share his audio/video]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="activities.request.right.exclusive"><![CDATA[would
>>     like to have permission for exclusive audio.]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="activities.ask.question"><![CDATA[would like to ask a
>>     question]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="camera.on"><![CDATA[Turn on camera]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="camera.off"><![CDATA[Turn off camera]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="microphone.on"><![CDATA[Turn on microphone]]></entry>
>>     <entry key="microphone.off"><![CDATA[Turn off microphone]]></entry>
>>
>>
>>     On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 8:25 PM Daniel Ascher
>>     <aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com
>>     <mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Will do. Thanks!
>>
>>         Dan
>>
>>         On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
>>         <solomax666@gmail.com <mailto:solomax666@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Text will be enough :)
>>
>>             On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 7:32 AM Daniel Ascher
>>             <aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com
>>             <mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Maxim, I will try to create a complete list of labels
>>                 for all of these. Do you need me to include the icon
>>                 for each one in the list that I create? Or can I just
>>                 list the labels without icons?
>>
>>                 Thanks! Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>                 On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 10:58 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>>                 <solomax666@gmail.com <mailto:solomax666@gmail.com>>
>>                 wrote:
>>
>>                     Hello Daniel,
>>
>>                     as you might notice there are 2 sets of icons in
>>                     user list
>>                     1) own icons (always visible and BIG)
>>                     2) icons of other people (visible to moderators only)
>>
>>                     Additionally there are icons for right/permission
>>                     and for action
>>                     Rights/permissions can be:
>>                     , moderator
>>                     , presenter
>>                     , whiteBoard
>>                     , share
>>                     , remoteControl
>>                     , audio
>>                     , video
>>                     , exclusive
>>                     User can send request for each permission (if
>>                     "user questions are allowed")
>>                     Moderator can grant/revoke each permission
>>
>>                     Actions can be:
>>                        camera
>>                        microphone
>>                        kick
>>                     first 2 can be started/stopped
>>
>>                     These actions require labels
>>
>>                     According to "gear" icon, I believe there is no
>>                     need to disable it, user can set up devices (get
>>                     prepared for the conference any time with any
>>                     level of permissions ....)
>>
>>
>>
>>                     On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:07 AM Daniel Ascher
>>                     <aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com
>>                     <mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                         Maxim. Are these just for the webcam and mic,
>>                         or are there other icons that need labels as
>>                         well? I can provide the language for the
>>                         different icons if I know which ones you need
>>                         changes to.
>>
>>                         For the webcam and mic icons:
>>
>>                          Turn on camera
>>
>>                          Turn off camera
>>
>>                          Turn on mic
>>
>>                          Turn off mic
>>
>>                         I have one other suggestion for camera and mic:
>>
>>                          If a user DOES NOT have permission to share
>>                         webcam or audio can this icon be grayed out?
>>                         Or can different hover text be shown in that
>>                         situation (see below) such as "Webcam and mic
>>                         settings not available without permission,"
>>                         or "You must request webcam or mic permission"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                         Permissions:
>>
>>                         In general I think most of the permission
>>                         messages are already good. For permission
>>                         requests I would slightly adjust the language
>>                         in the English version to be:
>>
>>                         1) Ask for permission for  -- Change to
>>                         "Request permission to........."
>>                         2) Give permission for -- Change to "Accept
>>                         request to........."
>>                         3) Remove permission for -- Change to "Remove
>>                         permission to........"
>>
>>                         Examples:
>>
>>                          1. Request permission to be presenter
>>                          2. Accept request to present
>>                          3. Remove permission to present
>>
>>                          Request permission to share my webcam
>>
>>                         When the moderator allows a participant to
>>                         have permission (without a request from the
>>                         user), I would use the "Allow" language. So
>>
>>                         1. Allow this user to publish their
>>                         audio/video -- Change to "Allow user to share
>>                         webcam"
>>                         2. Allow this user to publish their audio --
>>                         Change to "Allow user to use mic"
>>                         3. Would like to have right to be presenter
>>                         in the room -- Change to "Allow user to be
>>                         presenter"
>>                         4. Would like to draw on whiteboard -- Change
>>                         to "Allow user to draw"
>>                         5. Allow user to share screen/record -- No change
>>                         6. Allow remote control (during screen
>>                         sharing) -- No change
>>                         7. I would like to get the right for
>>                         exclusive audio -- Change to "Allow exclusive
>>                         audio"
>>                         8. Grant moderator rights to this user
>>                         --"Allow user to have moderator rights"
>>
>>                         Please let me know if this is helpful and if
>>                         there are other icons you need suggestions for.
>>
>>                         Dan
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>>                         On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:48 AM, Maxim
>>                         Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>                         <mailto:solomax666@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                             Sure we can change the labels
>>                             For every icon we need several labels:
>>
>>                             1) Ask for permission for
>>                             2) Give permission for
>>                             3) Remove permission for
>>
>>                             For some of them
>>                             4) Turn on
>>                             5) Turn off
>>
>>                             I would appreciate if you can provide
>>                             good text
>>
>>                             On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 9:13 PM Daniel
>>                             Ascher <aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com
>>                             <mailto:aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                                 Hi all.
>>
>>                                 I recently learned about a new system
>>                                 similar to OM that is not open-source
>>                                 but is currently free to use. In the
>>                                 future they will be charging for it's
>>                                 use.
>>
>>                                 I am sharing this information here
>>                                 because they have many of the same
>>                                 features as OM but they also have a
>>                                 few additional features that might be
>>                                 useful to have in OM, if possible. So
>>                                 take a look if you are interested. Go
>>                                 to goboard.com <http://goboard.com>
>>                                 to see it. It's very similar to OM
>>                                 but it has a more modern look. It's
>>                                 also a simpler system which is
>>                                 basically only designed for one
>>                                 purpose (tutoring) so it has many
>>                                 fewer features (no calendar for example).
>>
>>                                 One nice feature is that you can add
>>                                 an image from your mobile phone by
>>                                 texting it. Here is the screenshot of
>>                                 how that works. It just simplifies
>>                                 things for someone who wants to take
>>                                 a photo with a phone during a session
>>                                 and upload it to the whiteboard easily.
>>
>>
>>                                 Also, I think the instructions for
>>                                 turning on your webcam and mic are
>>                                 clearer in their system. I you hover
>>                                 over the webcam icon you see text
>>                                 that says "turn on my camera" which
>>                                 is _not confusing_. And if the camera
>>                                 is on and you hover, the message says
>>                                 "turn off my camera." In OM it says
>>                                 "you are allowed to share your
>>                                 audio/video." Maybe we can change the
>>                                 language to make it easier to
>>                                 understand. I know the icons change
>>                                 (adds an "x" if the camera on mic is
>>                                 on) but it's not intuitive and
>>                                 confuses users.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                                 If anyone else has a chance to look
>>                                 at goboard.com <http://goboard.com>
>>                                 maybe you see other things that would
>>                                 be good ideas for OM. Note that
>>                                 goboard is using WebRTC, which OM
>>                                 doesn't have yet, and we are
>>                                 therefore still stuck with the
>>                                 limitations of using flash and I know
>>                                 that makes things different in terms
>>                                 of what we are able to do at the moment.
>>
>>                                 Best.
>>
>>                                 Dan
>>
>>
>>
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>>                             -- 
>>                             WBR
>>                             Maxim aka solomax
>>
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>>
>>
>>                         -- 
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>>                         President
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>>                         "Creating Bright Futures"
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>>                     WBR
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>>
>>
>>                 -- 
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>>                 President
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>>                 "Creating Bright Futures"
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>>             WBR
>>             Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         -- 
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>>         President
>>         A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>>         "Creating Bright Futures"
>>
>>         505 York Road, Suite 6
>>         Jenkintown, PA 19046
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