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From Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: GPL v3 library in ASF project Was: Datetime picker for calendar (and maybe other components)
Date Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:57:26 GMT
Thanks, Christian.

Maxim, I'm sorry, we cannot have a dependency from GPL v3 library.
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Christian Müller
<christian.mueller@gmail.com> wrote:
> You cannot as mentioned at http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html.
>
> Best,
> Christian
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello legal folks,
>>
>> One of openmeetings contributors asks if we can use GPL v3 (no
>> optional clauses) library in our product. I think that so-called
>> compatibility with APL is only one way compatibility [1] and we still
>> cannot use GPL-ed products in our code. Could you please comment on
>> this?
>>
>> [1] http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.en.html
>> --
>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> http://dataved.ru/
>> +7 916 562 8095
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I disagree
>> > AFAIK derived means you have changes something and include changed
>> > library
>> > to your product.
>> >
>> > According to the link below:
>> > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.en.html
>> >
>> > In addition to clarifying the rules about licenses that are already
>> > GPL-compatible, GPLv3 is also newly compatible with a few other
>> > licenses.
>> > The Apache License 2.0 is a prime example.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Alexei Fedotov
>> > <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> When some product uses a library, the product is derived.
>> >> --
>> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >> http://dataved.ru/
>> >> +7 916 562 8095
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
>> >> <solomax666@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > We are going to use their library with no modifications, so this is
>> >> > not
>> >> the
>> >> > case?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Alexei Fedotov
>> >> > <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> > This licensing incompatibility applies *only* when some Apache
>> >> >> > project
>> >> >> software becomes a derivative work of some GPLv3 software,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> >> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> >> >> http://dataved.ru/
>> >> >> +7 916 562 8095
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
>> >> >> <solomax666@gmail.com
>> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > From the link I have already sent:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > LicensingKendo UI is licensed under GPLv3, which is compatible
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> Apache
>> >> >> > License 2.0
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > GPLv3 is also newly compatible with a few other licenses.
The
>> >> >> > Apache
>> >> >> > License 2.0 is a prime example. Lots of great free software
is
>> >> available
>> >> >> > under this license, with strong communities surrounding it.
We
>> >> >> > hope
>> >> that
>> >> >> > this change in GPLv3 will foster more cooperation and sharing
>> >> >> > within
>> >> the
>> >> >> > free software community.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > More info here: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.html
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Alexei Fedotov
>> >> >> > <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > Do they have double licensing?
>> >> >> > > On Apr 25, 2013 7:30 AM, "Maxim Solodovnik"
>> >> >> > > <solomax666@gmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > > Project page states: Licence GPLv3 AND Apache compatible
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Alexei Fedotov
>> >> >> > > > <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > > There is though javascript exception in Apache
practice
>> >> >> > > > > which
>> >> >> treats
>> >> >> > > > > javascript as data, thus effectively ignores
its license. I
>> >> think
>> >> >> we
>> >> >> > > > better
>> >> >> > > > > ask on the legal list.
>> >> >> > > > > On Apr 24, 2013 9:31 PM, "Maxim Solodovnik"
<
>> >> solomax666@gmail.com>
>> >> >> > > > wrote:
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > it is GPLv3 which is Apache compatible
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Alexei
Fedotov
>> >> >> > > > > > <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > > I cannot check the license from my
phone
>> >> >> > > > > > > On Apr 24, 2013 4:46 PM, "Maxim Solodovnik"
<
>> >> >> > solomax666@gmail.com>
>> >> >> > > > > > wrote:
>> >> >> > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > > > Hello all,
>> >> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > > > I would like to propose these
Datetime picker
>> >> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://www.7thweb.net/wicket-jquery-ui/kendo/datetimepicker/DateTimePickerPage
>> >> >> > > > > > > > to be used in our Calendar event.
and maybe other
>> >> components
>> >> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > > > pros:
>> >> >> > > > > > > > 1) it is smooth and jquery based
(currently Wicket
>> >> >> > > > > > > > uses
>> >> YUI
>> >> >> > > > > datepicker)
>> >> >> > > > > > > > 2) it allows to select both
date and time in one
>> >> >> > > > > > > > component
>> >> >> > > > > > > > 3) it has compatible license
>> >> >> > > > > > > > 4) it has working demo, so integration
will be easy
>> >> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > > > What do you think?
>> >> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > > > --
>> >> >> > > > > > > > WBR
>> >> >> > > > > > > > Maxim aka solomax
>> >> >> > > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > > --
>> >> >> > > > > > WBR
>> >> >> > > > > > Maxim aka solomax
>> >> >> > > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > --
>> >> >> > > > WBR
>> >> >> > > > Maxim aka solomax
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > WBR
>> >> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > WBR
>> >> > Maxim aka solomax
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > WBR
>> > Maxim aka solomax
>>
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