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From Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Commit messages from GPL project on ASF list
Date Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:10:44 GMT
As for Jim's concern, I think commits can be redirected to commits@ list.
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On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:00 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com
<seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is a flag in the mail notification to turn of diff's in those emails.
> So theoretically those emails don't have to include not even code fragments
> of GPL licensed code.
> So those emails could become what they initially should have been: Some
> simple notification of activity.
>
> We are actually also not interested in what exactly has changed or
> archiving external activities.
> If anybody is interested in those projects he can catch up with those
> involved there.
>
> All we are interested is a "heads up" there is something going on as we
> provide integration APIs that 3th parties are using.
>
> There are also a number of more 3th party projects that send those pings.
> Basically all projects hosted at apache-extras.org are configured to send a
> ping to our list when there was a SVN commit.
> http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/search?q=openmeetings
>
> It is argueable if an Apache developer list is the right place to have such
> a "news aggregator" for activities around OpenMeetings.
> There might be easy ways to resolve such a conflict. Possibly for example a
> Google Group Mailing list. "openmeetings-apache-extras" or something like
> that. It does in fact not make a difference, just another mailing list to
> monitor :)
> It is just a bit an imaginary line that we draw here from my point of view.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2013/3/21 Jim Jagielski <jim@apache.org>
>
>> IMO, it's inappropriate content for a dev@ list, which is
>> a place to *discuss* development, not an "archive" for
>> external development, legal issues notwithstanding.
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2013, at 7:16 AM, Shane Curcuru <asf@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I would be uncomfortable as well. If project members want to follow
>> external projects that's great, but duplicating all of an external
>> project's messages onto the public dev@ list is... not a best practice,
>> to say the least.
>> >
>> > Personally, I'd have to presume (for the average user) that everything
>> coming from that other GPL licensed project is GPL.  Thus, this seems to
>> violate the principle of least surprise and the fact that GPL is Category
>> X, which means that end users should be able to use Apache projects and
>> products without having to worry that GPL code is included - either in the
>> download, or in other places on our websites or mailing lists.
>> >
>> > - Shane
>> >
>> > On 3/19/2013 6:51 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>> >> It's come to my attention that the openmeetings project has recently
>> >> subscribed their dev list to the commit messages of a Google Code hosted
>> >> project under the GPL. I asked why and was told " those updates are
>> >> interesting for our integration API." There is some overlap in
>> >> committers but the project communities do seem to be distinct other than
>> >> this cross-posting of commits.
>> >>
>> >> I'm quite uncomfortable about this as it means that GPL code is passing
>> >> through our lists (and being archived) without any clear indication of
>> >> its legal status. What I'm not sure about is whether my discomfort is
>> >> because of an irrational fear of someone inadvertently using GPL code
>> >> without knowing it or whether that is, in fact, a rational fear.
>> >>
>> >> Advice please?
>> >>
>> >> Ross
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
>> >> Programme Leader (Open Development)
>> >> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
>> >>
>> >
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