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From Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [GSoC 2012] German Grekhov proposal
Date Mon, 02 Apr 2012 11:11:58 GMT
Yes I do have the access,
and I cannot see German and Dmitry projects among listed projects.

BTW, were there any other applicants on the list?

--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095



2012/4/2 seba.wagner@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmail.com>:
> @Alexei: Do you have a mentoring access to melange?
>
> 2012/4/2 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
>
>> Guys,
>> proposals should be published both on the project wiki (or Apache
>> wiki) and at melange, that's important not to miss melange.
>>
>> --
>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> http://dataved.ru/
>> +7 916 562 8095
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:35 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com
>> <seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > *Have I understood right that upload stream from a user with a wide
>> >
>> > connection is with high quality, but then when it has gone to the
>> > server the quality of the download stream could be changed for a user
>> > with narrow connection? What do you think about the importance of the
>> > task?*
>> > => No, curently we can't deliver different stream based on user
>> > configuration. Basically this task requires to modify Red5.
>> > Importance of that feature ... well sure it would be nice and important
>> to
>> > be able to have the option to watch a stream in different quality modes
>> and
>> > eventually in HTTP streaming instead of flash. At some point it will
>> require
>> > you to think about how to transcode the stream on server side et cetera.
>> So
>> > it is basically a server side project. However it is up to you to decide
>> if
>> > you want to apply for such a project.
>> >
>> > *How do you estimate this task? Is it the task for whole GSoC or just a
>> > part? If it is for the whole GSoC, I could make it.*
>> > => Hm yes sure we could make this task grow, however if you want to just
>> do
>> > this single tool you will have to give much more details about it so that
>> > 3th parties understand what is involved in it so that it takes 4 months
>> to
>> > implement it.
>> >
>> > As far is I do understand you want to work with the UI. So your Proposal
>> > could cover those tasks:
>> > 1) Bandwidth / Network testing tool,
>> > attached is a screenshot from such a tool, so that tool would have 5
>> > indicators:
>> > Ports, Connection, Repeat time, Download Speed, Upload speed
>> > You would need to create a server side servlet for testing the upload
>> speed.
>> >
>> > 2) Add audio/video settings to user profile
>> > User could adjust those settings in the Testing Application that pops up
>> > before he enters the video conference room, That way he can record 5
>> seconds
>> > and test on its own and then store the settings to his profile.
>> > => You should add a small mockup what of what it should look like
>> >
>> > 3) Improve the video pods
>> > I did not understand what you want to do here
>> >
>> >
>> > Sebastian
>> >
>> > 2012/4/2 German Grekhov <german.grekhov@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> Sebastian,
>> >>
>> >> thanks for your fast answer. Ok, I have understood that video stream
>> >> resolution auto-adjusting is unuseful feature. So, about your
>> >> suggestions...
>> >>
>> >> > Adjustment of the stream and measuring bandwidth while conferencing
is
>> >> > basically a streaming server feature...
>> >> > So if you are going to work on that, your task will be:
>> >> > - analysing which events are available in Red5
>> >> > - defining which scenarios we can realise using those events and
>> >> > features
>> >> > in Red5
>> >> > - implementing such scenarios
>> >>
>> >> Have I understood right that upload stream from a user with a wide
>> >> connection is with high quality, but then when it has gone to the
>> >> server the quality of the download stream could be changed for a user
>> >> with narrow connection? What do you think about the importance of the
>> >> task?
>> >>
>> >> > A completely separated thing would be to implement an initial load
>> >> > Tester:
>> >> > A separated tool (comparable to SpeedTest) that checks if you have
>> >> > sufficient down/upload rate, can connect to needed ports and measures
>> >> > your
>> >> > ping time. Such a "bandwidth detection tool" would be implemented as
>> >> > standalong application as you would do that test even outside of
>> >> > OpenMeetings.
>> >>
>> >> How do you estimate this task? Is it the task for whole GSoC or just a
>> >> part? If it is for the whole GSoC, I could make it.
>> >>
>> >> Unfortunately, we have not much time because the proposal should be
>> >> uploaded until the 6th of April, so I need harry up with this choice.
>> >>
>> >> German.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > 2012/4/2 seba.wagner@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmail.com>
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi German,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> thanks for the proposal!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Could you please explain a bit more detailed what you are going
to do
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> what tools and methods you will be exactly using? For example for
UI
>> >> >> changes it is common that you might include a small mackup that
>> >> >> describes
>> >> >> the changes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> About the automatic bandwidth detection / adjustment:
>> >> >> I would like to know what process you imagine to adjust the
>> bandwidth.
>> >> >> To
>> >> >> detect the bandwidth is one thing, however to change somebodys
>> >> >> bandwidth
>> >> >> you would need to re-publish his stream with different video
>> settings.
>> >> >>  The
>> >> >> width and height of the video has the biggest impact on bandwidth.
>> >> >> However
>> >> >> changing the video pod width/height "auto-magically" is no option...
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> user chooses that value.
>> >> >> The bandwidth detection also cannot change the download rate of
>> >> >> anybody,
>> >> >> you can only influence the upload bandwidth. If you want to change
>> >> >> somebodys download rate the only option you got is turning on/off
>> video
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> we don't provide different streams available for each participant.
>> >> >> Measuring the bandwidth while you are doing conferencing is also
not
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> easy, you can hardly do load test permanently while conferencing
as
>> the
>> >> >> bandwidth test will affect the conference (for example audio will
>> >> >> stutter
>> >> >> et cetera).
>> >> >> So I wonder what exactly have you in mind ? What tools and methods
>> are
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> going to use ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks!
>> >> >> Sebastian
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2012/4/2 German Grekhov <german.grekhov@gmail.com>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Hello.
>> >> >>> I'm German Grekhov. I want to take a part in Google Summer
of code
>> >> >>> with the OpenMeetings project.
>> >> >>> You could find and read my proposal here:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k0d70n0i-54pnsUgm7FycnHLI6v9yNSdZ_Md4iPDeFA/edit
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Everybody has the right of commenting this document.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Best regards,
>> >> >>> German Grekhov.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Sebastian Wagner
>> >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> >> >> http://www.openmeetings.de <
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/>
>> >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> >> >> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Sebastian Wagner
>> >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> >> > http://www.openmeetings.de <http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
>> >
>> >> > http://www.webbase-design.de
>> >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> >> > seba.wagner@gmail.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sebastian Wagner
>> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> > http://www.openmeetings.de
>> > http://www.webbase-design.de
>> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> > seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de <http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/>
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com

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