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From "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <seba.wag...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [GSoC 2012] Send your proposals to Google
Date Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:26:12 GMT
Nice job!

Now I only need somebody that grants me Mentoring Carma for melange website
:)

Sebastian

2012/4/3 German Grekhov <german.grekhov@gmail.com>

> Yes, I have mixed up the organization first time.
> Here is the proposal for Apache:
>
> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2012/ggrekhov/1001
>
> 3 апреля 2012 г. 14:44 пользователь seba.wagner@gmail.com
> <seba.wagner@gmail.com> написал:
> > I have see one, but that was ifor the org "IDI".
> > Are you sure that you did submit it correctly to Apache Foundation as
> Org ?
> >
> > Sebastian
> >
> > 2012/4/3 German Grekhov <german.grekhov@gmail.com>
> >
> >> I have sent my one.
> >>
> >> German
> >>
> >> 2012/4/3 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>:
> >> > Guys,
> >> > make sure your proposals are here:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2012
> >> >
> >> > Only few days remaining
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> > http://dataved.ru/
> >> > +7 916 562 8095
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2012/4/3 German Grekhov <german.grekhov@gmail.com>:
> >> >> My edited proposal is here now:
> >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GermanGrekhov/ProposalGSoC2012
> >> >>
> >> >> 3 апреля 2012 г. 9:13 пользователь German Grekhov
> >> >> <german.grekhov@gmail.com> написал:
> >> >>> Ok, I will do that. But where should I submit them?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 1) Proposal: wiki and melange.
> >> >>> 2) Resume, Cover Letter: ???
> >> >>>
> >> >>> German.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 2 апреля 2012 г. 23:54 пользователь seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >> >>> <seba.wagner@gmail.com> написал:
> >> >>>> Yeah you have to submit it, mentors will then rate it.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I copy here the requirements publiched by IDI for GSoC:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Students applying to work with [ORG] must submit a Resume,
Cover
> >> Letter,
> >> >>>> and a one or two page project proposal as described on the
Project
> >> Ideas
> >> >>>> Page.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Proposal should include:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 1. The title of the project
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 2. A summary of the research done to become familiarized with
a
> >> project.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 3. A list of distinct tasks that will be completed over the
project
> >> period.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 4. A timeline listing when key deliverables will be completed
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 5. Links to resources that will be utilized for the project.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Applicants may also choose to include mockups, wireframes,
and
> other
> >> media
> >> >>>> elements to enhance their proposals. Please be sure your proposal
> is
> >> no
> >> >>>> longer than two pages in length.
> >> >>>> Sebastian
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 2012/4/2 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> You should
> >> >>>>> 02.04.2012 18:29 пользователь "German Grekhov"
<
> >> german.grekhov@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>> написал:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> > What is melange? Who should post the proposal there:
I or my
> >> mentor?
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > 2 апреля 2012 г. 18:16 пользователь
seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >> >>>>> > <seba.wagner@gmail.com> написал:
> >> >>>>> > > How did you get the mentoring access to the melange
website?
> Do
> >> you
> >> >>>>> need
> >> >>>>> > to
> >> >>>>> > > request it on code-awards?
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > > Sebastian
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > > 2012/4/2 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > >> Yes I do have the access,
> >> >>>>> > >> and I cannot see German and Dmitry projects
among listed
> >> projects.
> >> >>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>> > >> BTW, were there any other applicants on the
list?
> >> >>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>> > >> --
> >> >>>>> > >> With best regards / с наилучшими
пожеланиями,
> >> >>>>> > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> >> >>>>> > >> http://dataved.ru/
> >> >>>>> > >> +7 916 562 8095
> >> >>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>> > >> 2012/4/2 seba.wagner@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmail.com>:
> >> >>>>> > >> > @Alexei: Do you have a mentoring access
to melange?
> >> >>>>> > >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> > 2012/4/2 Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>> > >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> Guys,
> >> >>>>> > >> >> proposals should be published both
on the project wiki (or
> >> Apache
> >> >>>>> > >> >> wiki) and at melange, that's important
not to miss
> melange.
> >> >>>>> > >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> --
> >> >>>>> > >> >> With best regards / с наилучшими
пожеланиями,
> >> >>>>> > >> >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей
Федотов,
> >> >>>>> > >> >> http://dataved.ru/
> >> >>>>> > >> >> +7 916 562 8095
> >> >>>>> > >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:35 PM,
seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >> >>>>> > >> >> <seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > *Have I understood right that
upload stream from a user
> >> with a
> >> >>>>> wide
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > connection is with high quality,
but then when it has
> gone
> >> to the
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > server the quality of the download
stream could be
> changed
> >> for a
> >> >>>>> > user
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > with narrow connection? What
do you think about the
> >> importance of
> >> >>>>> > the
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > task?*
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > => No, curently we can't
deliver different stream based
> on
> >> user
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > configuration. Basically this
task requires to modify
> Red5.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > Importance of that feature
... well sure it would be
> nice
> >> and
> >> >>>>> > >> important
> >> >>>>> > >> >> to
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > be able to have the option
to watch a stream in
> different
> >> quality
> >> >>>>> > >> modes
> >> >>>>> > >> >> and
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > eventually in HTTP streaming
instead of flash. At some
> >> point it
> >> >>>>> > will
> >> >>>>> > >> >> require
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > you to think about how to transcode
the stream on server
> >> side et
> >> >>>>> > >> cetera.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> So
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > it is basically a server side
project. However it is up
> to
> >> you to
> >> >>>>> > >> decide
> >> >>>>> > >> >> if
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > you want to apply for such
a project.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > *How do you estimate this task?
Is it the task for whole
> >> GSoC or
> >> >>>>> > just
> >> >>>>> > >> a
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > part? If it is for the whole
GSoC, I could make it.*
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > => Hm yes sure we could
make this task grow, however if
> >> you want
> >> >>>>> to
> >> >>>>> > >> just
> >> >>>>> > >> >> do
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > this single tool you will have
to give much more details
> >> about it
> >> >>>>> > so
> >> >>>>> > >> that
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > 3th parties understand what
is involved in it so that it
> >> takes 4
> >> >>>>> > >> months
> >> >>>>> > >> >> to
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > implement it.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > As far is I do understand you
want to work with the UI.
> So
> >> your
> >> >>>>> > >> Proposal
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > could cover those tasks:
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > 1) Bandwidth / Network testing
tool,
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > attached is a screenshot from
such a tool, so that tool
> >> would
> >> >>>>> have
> >> >>>>> > 5
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > indicators:
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > Ports, Connection, Repeat time,
Download Speed, Upload
> >> speed
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > You would need to create a
server side servlet for
> testing
> >> the
> >> >>>>> > upload
> >> >>>>> > >> >> speed.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > 2) Add audio/video settings
to user profile
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > User could adjust those settings
in the Testing
> >> Application that
> >> >>>>> > pops
> >> >>>>> > >> up
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > before he enters the video
conference room, That way he
> can
> >> >>>>> record
> >> >>>>> > 5
> >> >>>>> > >> >> seconds
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > and test on its own and then
store the settings to his
> >> profile.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > => You should add a small
mockup what of what it should
> >> look like
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > 3) Improve the video pods
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > I did not understand what you
want to do here
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > Sebastian
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > 2012/4/2 German Grekhov <german.grekhov@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> Sebastian,
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> thanks for your fast answer.
Ok, I have understood that
> >> video
> >> >>>>> > stream
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> resolution auto-adjusting
is unuseful feature. So,
> about
> >> your
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> suggestions...
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > Adjustment of the
stream and measuring bandwidth
> while
> >> >>>>> > >> conferencing is
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > basically a streaming
server feature...
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > So if you are going
to work on that, your task will
> be:
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > - analysing which
events are available in Red5
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > - defining which scenarios
we can realise using those
> >> events
> >> >>>>> and
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > features
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > in Red5
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > - implementing such
scenarios
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> Have I understood right
that upload stream from a user
> >> with a
> >> >>>>> wide
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> connection is with high
quality, but then when it has
> >> gone to
> >> >>>>> the
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> server the quality of the
download stream could be
> >> changed for a
> >> >>>>> > user
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> with narrow connection?
What do you think about the
> >> importance
> >> >>>>> of
> >> >>>>> > the
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> task?
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > A completely separated
thing would be to implement an
> >> initial
> >> >>>>> > load
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > Tester:
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > A separated tool (comparable
to SpeedTest) that
> checks
> >> if you
> >> >>>>> > have
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > sufficient down/upload
rate, can connect to needed
> >> ports and
> >> >>>>> > >> measures
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > your
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > ping time. Such a
"bandwidth detection tool" would be
> >> >>>>> > implemented
> >> >>>>> > >> as
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > standalong application
as you would do that test even
> >> outside
> >> >>>>> of
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > OpenMeetings.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> How do you estimate this
task? Is it the task for whole
> >> GSoC or
> >> >>>>> > just
> >> >>>>> > >> a
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> part? If it is for the
whole GSoC, I could make it.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> Unfortunately, we have
not much time because the
> proposal
> >> should
> >> >>>>> > be
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> uploaded until the 6th
of April, so I need harry up
> with
> >> this
> >> >>>>> > choice.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> German.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > 2012/4/2 seba.wagner@gmail.com
<
> seba.wagner@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> Hi German,
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> thanks for the
proposal!
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> Could you please
explain a bit more detailed what
> you
> >> are
> >> >>>>> going
> >> >>>>> > >> to do
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> and
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> what tools and
methods you will be exactly using?
> For
> >> example
> >> >>>>> > for
> >> >>>>> > >> UI
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> changes it is
common that you might include a small
> >> mackup
> >> >>>>> that
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> describes
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> the changes.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> About the automatic
bandwidth detection /
> adjustment:
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> I would like to
know what process you imagine to
> >> adjust the
> >> >>>>> > >> >> bandwidth.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> To
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> detect the bandwidth
is one thing, however to change
> >> >>>>> somebodys
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> bandwidth
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> you would need
to re-publish his stream with
> different
> >> video
> >> >>>>> > >> >> settings.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>  The
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> width and height
of the video has the biggest
> impact on
> >> >>>>> > bandwidth.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> However
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> changing the video
pod width/height "auto-magically"
> >> is no
> >> >>>>> > >> option...
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> the
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> user chooses that
value.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> The bandwidth
detection also cannot change the
> >> download rate
> >> >>>>> of
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> anybody,
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> you can only influence
the upload bandwidth. If you
> >> want to
> >> >>>>> > change
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> somebodys download
rate the only option you got is
> >> turning
> >> >>>>> > on/off
> >> >>>>> > >> >> video
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> as
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> we don't provide
different streams available for
> each
> >> >>>>> > participant.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> Measuring the
bandwidth while you are doing
> >> conferencing is
> >> >>>>> > also
> >> >>>>> > >> not
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> that
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> easy, you can
hardly do load test permanently while
> >> >>>>> > conferencing
> >> >>>>> > >> as
> >> >>>>> > >> >> the
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> bandwidth test
will affect the conference (for
> example
> >> audio
> >> >>>>> > will
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> stutter
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> et cetera).
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> So I wonder what
exactly have you in mind ? What
> tools
> >> and
> >> >>>>> > methods
> >> >>>>> > >> >> are
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> you
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> going to use ?
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> Thanks!
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> Sebastian
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> 2012/4/2 German
Grekhov <german.grekhov@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>> Hello.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>> I'm German
Grekhov. I want to take a part in Google
> >> Summer
> >> >>>>> of
> >> >>>>> > >> code
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>> with the OpenMeetings
project.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>> You could
find and read my proposal here:
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>
> >> >>>>> > >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>>
> >>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k0d70n0i-54pnsUgm7FycnHLI6v9yNSdZ_Md4iPDeFA/edit
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>> Everybody
has the right of commenting this
> document.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>> Best regards,
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>> German Grekhov.
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> --
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> Sebastian Wagner
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> http://www.openmeetings.de
<
> >> >>>>> > >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > --
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > Sebastian Wagner
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > http://www.openmeetings.de
<
> >> >>>>> > >> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > http://www.webbase-design.de
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > --
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > Sebastian Wagner
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > http://www.openmeetings.de
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > http://www.webbase-design.de
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >> >>>>> > >> >> > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >> >>>>> > >> >>
> >> >>>>> > >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> >
> >> >>>>> > >> > --
> >> >>>>> > >> > Sebastian Wagner
> >> >>>>> > >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> >> >>>>> > >> > http://www.openmeetings.de <
> >> >>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openmeetings/
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > >> > http://www.webbase-design.de
> >> >>>>> > >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >> >>>>> > >> > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >> >>>>> > >>
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > >
> >> >>>>> > > --
> >> >>>>> > > Sebastian Wagner
> >> >>>>> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> >> >>>>> > > http://www.openmeetings.de
> >> >>>>> > > http://www.webbase-design.de
> >> >>>>> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >> >>>>> > > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Sebastian Wagner
> >> >>>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> >> >>>> http://www.openmeetings.de
> >> >>>> http://www.webbase-design.de
> >> >>>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >> >>>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sebastian Wagner
> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > http://www.openmeetings.de
> > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > seba.wagner@gmail.com
>



-- 
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