Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-openjpa-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 706 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2010 16:44:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 9 Apr 2010 16:44:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 67658 invoked by uid 500); 9 Apr 2010 16:44:00 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-openjpa-dev-archive@openjpa.apache.org Received: (qmail 67638 invoked by uid 500); 9 Apr 2010 16:44:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@openjpa.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@openjpa.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@openjpa.apache.org Received: (qmail 67630 invoked by uid 99); 9 Apr 2010 16:44:00 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:44:00 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of michael.d.dick@gmail.com designates 74.125.92.26 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.92.26] (HELO qw-out-2122.google.com) (74.125.92.26) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:43:55 +0000 Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1307124qwb.57 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 09:43:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:reply-to:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:received :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=a7w04IFGtTd6PEtPm/RqDVWpCaV6LKcH6z7EEEpP0XE=; b=b7goL62B4AGQxUpnN75ZwCEITtp2wqacnoCr3XQOKibhYK3YEeeTI0WWQEYfbSlYVu 7bXIgdw3QEd4k9orILK8vvnG7Opnxh2sBADvupaKYOdxx6/EGHx2Ctznw+27gSU6aVWW Ft44r0ZCA5VZXgZ3M7+NxtrbGd4ZCzq5ZY0JE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=nZVSbhIiDUAcBMcuTc0/AqrXn3yOJF9Ypm26fI/tSYjkKvsZjT1ftjJOcS3mhNkJ7Q YKd9l9yta3ImOQ7yAQwgR/PkK2hcAr/+pP8GINq8lXFB11kyJOXCDTMplSllpbuOBWDV uhZaJMeqMuF0A/qDr9IK6ur7qxnTvdnQBFCDA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: michael.d.dick@gmail.com Reply-To: mikedd@apache.org Received: by 10.229.41.197 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:43:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1270830371201-4878105.post@n2.nabble.com> References: <1270830371201-4878105.post@n2.nabble.com> From: Michael Dick Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 11:43:13 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 02969668aa487756 Received: by 10.229.190.213 with SMTP id dj21mr297955qcb.66.1270831413431; Fri, 09 Apr 2010 09:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] localized trace messages To: dev@openjpa.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636283b68f7a7100483d07eaf --001636283b68f7a7100483d07eaf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Pinaki, That's a different definition of TRACE than I'm used to. I was under the impression that trace *is* for developers. It's hard to find a consensus on the Internet but I can point to this definitionwhich I think sums it up. If we do go with your definition of trace I'd argue that we need a new log level which is for developers, not for users. -mike On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Pinaki Poddar wrote: > > TRACE messages are *not* for the developer -- they are for the user (under > duress and using them as the last resort to figure out a problem) and they > must be localized. > > During development a developer may temporarily use whatever mechanics to > suit his/her style -- but once the development is complete, then cleaning > the workspace is part of the work process. > > > ----- > Pinaki > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/DISCUSS-localized-trace-messages-tp4877982p4878105.html > Sent from the OpenJPA Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > --001636283b68f7a7100483d07eaf--