Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-openjpa-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 90613 invoked from network); 22 May 2009 00:18:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 22 May 2009 00:18:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 34357 invoked by uid 500); 22 May 2009 00:18:13 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-openjpa-dev-archive@openjpa.apache.org Received: (qmail 34278 invoked by uid 500); 22 May 2009 00:18:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@openjpa.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@openjpa.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@openjpa.apache.org Received: (qmail 34267 invoked by uid 99); 22 May 2009 00:18:13 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 May 2009 00:18:13 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.43.132] (HELO sca-es-mail-1.sun.com) (192.18.43.132) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 May 2009 00:18:00 +0000 Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n4M0HQ9k019880 for ; Thu, 21 May 2009 17:17:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) id <0KK000900R7WT400@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for dev@openjpa.apache.org; Thu, 21 May 2009 17:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.13] (c-98-207-88-57.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [98.207.88.57]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPSA id <0KK000A99RH1VYD0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for dev@openjpa.apache.org; Thu, 21 May 2009 17:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 17:17:25 -0700 From: Craig L Russell Subject: Re: [VOTE] Turn off enhancement by subclassing as the default In-reply-to: <1242859511151-2949153.post@n2.nabble.com> Sender: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM To: dev@openjpa.apache.org Message-id: <7A4D7D92-AD9E-436E-B115-6542C6736FB4@SUN.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-134-503756576 References: <89c0c52c0812041625x69489674x59d052ffae528e37@mail.gmail.com> <1242859511151-2949153.post@n2.nabble.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-134-503756576 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +1 to turn it off in both 1.3 and trunk. Turning it off will not let it be forgotten. Every user who naively runs without benefit of enhancement will get a nice message just like today. The difference is that after getting the message that enhancement was not done, today the user continues and tomorrow the user will have to actually read the message. The message should direct the user to explicit instructions on how to enhance the classes, and how to run without enhancement. I can tell you that it took me a while to figure it out. Craig On May 20, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Pinaki Poddar wrote: > > Hi Kevin, > > +1 on 1.3 if you mean "turn off" as > openjpa.RuntimeUnenhancedClasses=unsupported. > > I am rather ambivalent about trunk though. > > Few more aspects that we should take note of: > 1. We must recognize the core notion behind runtime enhancement is a > strong and useful feature. > > 2. The available support has its flaws (which is the reason for this > discussion being resurrected) -- but more importantly, we do not > know the > footprint of the incompleteness of this feature. Given that we run > our test > corpus on enhanced classes only, we basically wait till a user's > report is > diagnosed as yet another bug caused by this feature. > > 3. "Turning it off" has the risk of this powerful feature being > "forgotten" -- if it turns out so, it will not be a desirable outcome. > > > ----- > Pinaki Poddar http://ppoddar.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/pinakipoddar > OpenJPA PMC Member/Committer > JPA Expert Group Member > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-VOTE--Turn-off-enhancement-by-subclassing-as-the-default-tp1616140p2949153.html > Sent from the OpenJPA Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > Craig L Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. 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