From dev-return-6448-apmail-openjpa-dev-archive=openjpa.apache.org@openjpa.apache.org Sat Oct 13 00:42:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-openjpa-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 81658 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2007 00:42:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 13 Oct 2007 00:42:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 70190 invoked by uid 500); 13 Oct 2007 00:42:04 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-openjpa-dev-archive@openjpa.apache.org Received: (qmail 70155 invoked by uid 500); 13 Oct 2007 00:42:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@openjpa.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@openjpa.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@openjpa.apache.org Received: (qmail 70146 invoked by uid 99); 13 Oct 2007 00:42:04 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:42:04 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of plinskey@gmail.com designates 209.85.198.184 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.198.184] (HELO rv-out-0910.google.com) (209.85.198.184) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:42:08 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k20so945037rvb for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:41:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=p90eEj/TvnryrJ0qC2nCUyOjAhxuplW+hTkgWh1dq/g=; b=ATQXad8F6lKpscpTW2HCBMH04e2t9hVstRS4OknlhJEPYo8iCIr82em+V8C3QBf09Gnh6e8bRd9kgDp4gF6429xrAREp2X4lJDHRlKnasx5sljlPc2Ot3e/XgWkFN5zVeVklOW0H3i7TrzXSjJCIU9AtYpV6Pq/Um5EH10l6C10= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=BF7RCQ+MtGA8NNSyeJH9nvzP+1uW/vEaX99mMqumqKCRGIjPkV2a1qvml083WckOuhrGUgqTMudnEz0m1iTCZmGNiEWRiW+Ntjsddnc7Bow3c82emnS7z5EXfOT+9N/CsW/bW0dPEhapBaY4SoyIV8tTlzSfKkc3aPLAG7KwQV8= Received: by 10.143.8.10 with SMTP id l10mr1237261wfi.1192236106766; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.165.19 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7262f25e0710121741t664f96b8l8a33bdbce7e80fb7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:41:46 -0700 From: "Patrick Linskey" To: dev@openjpa.apache.org Subject: SQL reordering defaults MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi, It seems like our SQL reordering causes a lot of consternation for new OpenJPA users. Should we maybe change our defaults so that we assume "normal" FKs exist for all relationships? -Patrick -- Patrick Linskey 202 669 5907