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From "Matthieu Riou" <matthieu.r...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Entity manager injection
Date Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:09:15 GMT
Hi Craig,

I plainly understand the rational when your application is living in an EJB
container and relies on session beans. However when you're in a standalone
environment (like Apache Ode is) or only with a servlet container, there are
many cases where you'll want your Entity to know about the EM. It allows you
to have a nice design with some entities being responsible of the lifecycle
of other entities they manage.

For example in Ode the process entity creates and finds process instances,
all the persistence details being hidden behind generic (as non persistence
specific) interfaces.

Thanks a lot for the reply and the clarification,
Matthieu

On 3/5/07, Craig L Russell <Craig.Russell@sun.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Matthew,
>
> Basically, with JPA we have formalized separation of concerns between
> the user's Domain Object Model, represented by Entity, and the user's
> Business Object, represented by Session Beans.
>
> There is no need for managing an EntityManager from the Entity
> itself. So you should simply remove references to the em in your
> Entity classes, and put them instead into your Session Beans.
>
> So injection doesn't work at all for Entity, but works for Session
> Beans.
>
> Craig
>
> On Mar 5, 2007, at 9:28 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
>
> >> Hmm. I believe that you actually fall into the first category --
> >> OpenJPA
> >> only uses the ManagedRuntime when it thinks that it's integrating
> >> with
> >> JTA. It sounds like you're using JTA to control transactions, and
> >> plugging into OpenJPA SPIs to tell OpenJPA about how to bind into
> >> JTA.
> >
> >
> > I see, so if what JPA needs is just a JTA transaction then yes
> > we're in that
> > category. So I guess the next question is do you have an idea why
> > my entity
> > manager is null when I use:
> >
> > @Entity
> > public class Foo {
> >   @PersistenceContext private EntityManager em;
> >   ...
> > }
> >
> > ?? These 3 links point to the place we initialize the EM factory,
> > the EM and
> > a the persistence object that uses the EM and would like to use
> > injection:
> >
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/dao-jpa/src/
> > main/java/org/apache/ode/dao/jpa/BPELDAOConnectionFactoryImpl.java
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/dao-jpa/src/
> > main/java/org/apache/ode/dao/jpa/BPELDAOConnectionImpl.java
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ode/trunk/dao-jpa/src/
> > main/java/org/apache/ode/dao/jpa/ProcessDAOImpl.java
> >
> > The hooks certainly do exist, for the most part. However, we already
> >> have an API-based way to do this --
> >> OpenJPAPersistence.getEntityManager(Object). Since injecting an
> >> instance's EntityManager not quite the same as what happens with the
> >> @PersistenceContext annotation from a Java EE standpoint, I prefer to
> >> recommend the proprietary OpenJPA extension API. This makes it more
> >> clear where you are depending on OpenJPA-specific features, and
> >> avoids
> >> any semantic confusion.
> >
> >
> > Makes sense.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Matthieu
> >
> >
> >
> >> -Patrick
> >>
> >> --
> >> Patrick Linskey
> >> BEA Systems, Inc.
> >>
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> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Matthieu Riou [mailto:matthieu.riou@gmail.com]
> >> > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:48 AM
> >> > To: Patrick Linskey
> >> > Cc: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Re: Entity manager injection
> >> >
> >> > We're managing our own transactions using our
> >> > TransactionManager provided through "openjpa.ManagedRuntime".
> >> > So I guess we'll have to go for your second solution. I'll
> >> > probably implement a simple ThreadLocal holding the
> >> > EntityManager associated with the current tx.
> >> >
> >> > Btw it's just an idea but wouldn't it be possible for OpenJPA
> >> > to handle persistence manager injection even outside of an
> >> > EJB container? It seems to me that all the necessary hooks
> >> > exist. Just an idea though :)
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the help,
> >> > Matthieu
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 3/5/07, Patrick Linskey <plinskey@bea.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >       Hi,
> >> >
> >> >       IIRC, you're doing something like so:
> >> >
> >> >       @Entity
> >> >       public class Foo {
> >> >           @PersistenceContext private EntityManager em;
> >> >           ...
> >> >       }
> >> >
> >> >       The Java EE spec's support for resource injection does
> >> > not apply for
> >> >       entity types. So, from an EJB standpoint, you can only
> >> > use resource
> >> >       injection in session beans and MDBs. You're getting the
> >> > NPE because your
> >> >       EJB container ignores the @PersistenceContext
> >> > annotation on your entity.
> >> >       (Note that OpenJPA doesn't do anything at all with
> >> > @PersistenceContext
> >> >       annotations.)
> >> >
> >> >       If you were using a session bean, then there are two
> >> > possible answers to
> >> >       your question:
> >> >
> >> >       1. If you are managing your own transactions using JTA
> >> > and bean-managed
> >> >       transactions, then you'd be in good shape using
> >> > @PersistenceContext.
> >> >
> >> >       2. If you are managing your own transactions using the JPA
> >> >       EntityTransaction API, then you cannot use
> >> > @PersistenceContext to inject
> >> >       an EM, but instead must use @PersistenceUnit to inject an
> >> >       EntityManagerFactory (or some other EMF lookup means),
> >> > and do your own
> >> >       lifecycle management.
> >> >
> >> >       -Patrick
> >> >
> >> >       --
> >> >       Patrick Linskey
> >> >       BEA Systems, Inc.
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >       > -----Original Message-----
> >> >       > From: Matthieu Riou [mailto: matthieu.riou@gmail.com
> >> > <mailto:matthieu.riou@gmail.com> ]
> >> >       > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 8:32 AM
> >> >       > To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >       > Subject: Entity manager injection
> >> >       >
> >> >       > Hi,
> >> >       >
> >> >       > For ODE we're managing our transactions ourselves. We start
> >> >       > them and commit
> >> >       > them explicitly. By the same token we create the
> >> > EntityManagerFactory
> >> >       > ourselves. Is there a possibility to use the EntityManager
> >> >       > injection in the
> >> >       > persistent classes in this context or do we have to
> >> > implement our own
> >> >       > ThreadLocal based thingy to have the EM available in our
> >> >       > persistent classes
> >> >       > using it?
> >> >       >
> >> >       > I've tried doing something like:
> >> >       >
> >> >       > 1. Adding "@PersistenceContext  private EntityManager _em;"
> >> >       > in a persistence
> >> >       > class.
> >> >       > 2. Load the persistence class from an EntityManager
> >> > created with the
> >> >       > factory.
> >> >       > 3. Use _em in my persistent class
> >> >       >        => NullPointerException
> >> >       >
> >> >       > Thanks,
> >> >       > Matthieu
> >> >       >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>
> Craig Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>
>
>

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