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Subject: RE: Using query hints for mapping extensions in orm.xml
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:16:30 -0800
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From: "Patrick Linskey" <plinskey@bea.com>
To: <open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org>

Firstly, thanks for putting this together.

I don't think that portability is a huge problem. I agree with the three
scenarios that Albert mentioned, but I think that we can refine #1:

> 1) if an application wants to be fully portable between providers, the
> standard orm.xsd must be specified. This will inhibit the use=20
> of openjpa
> features.

I would revise this as follows:

1) if an application wants to be fully portable between providers, the
standard orm.xsd must be specified. This will inhibit the use of OpenJPA
features in that file, so a parallel openjpa-orm.xml file must be used
which conforms to the OpenJPA XSD and adds the additional information.

We could even create a second XSD for that situation that allows only
OpenJPA content to help prevent people from putting conflicting stanzas
in the two files.

-Patrick

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Albert Lee [mailto:allee8285@gmail.com]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:38 AM
> To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Using query hints for mapping extensions in orm.xml
>=20
> First, I would not expected other providers will handle the special
> openjpa.orm.xsd even if it is spec'ed out in the document=20
> header. If they
> choose to ignore the new schema and proceed to parse the=20
> document content
> using the standard orm.xsd, then any openjpa specific stanza=20
> will probably
> be flagged as non-compliance.
>=20
> The other scenario is: what about if the document does not specify the
> schema at all, like the original sample. I suspect most providers will
> tolerate this scenario, just like openjpa does.
>=20
> Can the solutions be:
> 1) if an application wants to be fully portable between providers, the
> standard orm.xsd must be specified. This will inhibit the use=20
> of openjpa
> features.
> 2) if an application wants to use openjpa specific stanza and=20
> still be used
> by other provider, don't specify the schema at all in the=20
> document. Hoping
> the other providers will tolerate and ignore the openjpa features.
> 3) if an application wants to be openjpa schema compliance, then use
> openjpa.orm.xsd in the document header and openjpa can validate the
> document. However this will prevent the application to be=20
> portable to other
> providers.
>=20
> Albert Lee.
>=20
>=20
> On 1/24/07, Kevin Sutter <kwsutter@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you, Albert, for your experimentation.  The updated schema
> > definition
> > (openjpa_orm_1_0.xsd) and the example openjpa_orm.xml seems=20
> to be what we
> > are looking for.  I guess the only concern is whether we=20
> can count on
> > other
> > JPA implementations to ignore this extra schema definition=20
> and just rely
> > on
> > the standard orm.xsd.
> >
> > Question:  Even if other JPA providers are smart enough to=20
> ignore our
> > specialized schema and use the standard JPA schema, what=20
> happens to our
> > extension elements?  Do they get ignored as well?  Or, will the
> > verification
> > step still trip over these new/updated elements?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> > On 1/23/07, Albert Lee <allee8285@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Somehow the one of the attachment (openjpa_orm_1_0.xsd)=20
> from my previous
> > > note did not make it to this forum.
> > >
> > > Try again here.
> > >
> >=20
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------
> > >
> > > <?xml version=3D"1.0" encoding=3D"UTF-8"?>
> > > <!--
> > >     OpenJPA specific orm.xml schema locates in: (E.g.)
> > >
> > >
> >=20
> http://incubator.apache.org/openjpa/xml/ns/persistence/openjpa
> _orm_1_0.xsd
> > > "
> > >
> > >     This schema extends
> > http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/persistence/orm_1_0.xsd
> > > with
> > >         OpenJPA specific stanza and uses the same name space as
> > >             "http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/persistence/orm"
> > > -->
> > > <xsd:schema
> > >                  version=3D"1.0"
> > >                xmlns:xsd=3D"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
> > >          targetNamespace=3D"=20
> http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/persistence/orm"
> > >               =20
> xmlns:orm=3D"http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/persistence/orm"
> > >       elementFormDefault=3D"qualified"
> > >     attributeFormDefault=3D"unqualified"
> > >   >
> > >
> > >   <xsd:annotation>
> > >     <xsd:documentation>
> > >       @(#)openjpa_orm_1_0.xsd 1.0  Jan 22 2007
> > >     </xsd:documentation>
> > >   </xsd:annotation>
> > >   <xsd:annotation>
> > >      <xsd:documentation><![CDATA[
> > >
> > >        This is the XML Schema for extending the persistence
> > > object-relational
> > >        mapping file for OpenJPA specific features.
> > >
> > >        The file may be named "META-INF/orm.xml" in the persistence
> > >        archive or it may be named some other name which would be
> > >        used to locate the file as resource on the classpath.
> > >
> > >      ]]></xsd:documentation>
> > >   </xsd:annotation>
> > >
> > >   <!-- Redefine the orm_1_0.xsd with additional OpenJPA=20
> extensions -->
> > >   <xsd:redefine schemaLocation=3D"
> > http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/persistence/orm_1_0.xsd
> > > ">
> > >
> > >     <!--
> > >         Append optional single <data-cache> element to <entity>.
> > >           Valid values are "true" | "false" | "1" | "0".
> > >           Default value is "false".
> > >     -->
> > >     <xsd:complexType name=3D"entity">
> > >       <xsd:complexContent>
> > >         <xsd:extension base=3D"orm:entity">
> > >           <xsd:sequence>
> > >             <xsd:element name=3D"data-cache" type=3D"xsd:boolean"
> > > minOccurs=3D"0" maxOccurs=3D"1" default=3D"false"/>
> > >           </xsd:sequence>
> > >         </xsd:extension>
> > >       </xsd:complexContent>
> > >     </xsd:complexType>
> > >
> > >
> > >     <!--
> > >         Append optional single <jdbc-nonpolymorphic> element to
> > > <one-to-many>.
> > >           Valid values are "true" | "false" | "1" | "0".
> > >           Default value is "false".
> > >
> > >         Append optional single <jdbc-eager-fetch-mode> element to
> > > <one-to-many>.
> > >           Valid values are "parallel" | "others".
> > >           Default value is "parallel".
> > >     -->
> > >     <xsd:complexType name=3D"one-to-many">
> > >       <xsd:complexContent>
> > >         <xsd:extension base=3D"orm:one-to-many">
> > >           <xsd:sequence>
> > >
> > >             <xsd:element name=3D"jdbc-nonpolymorphic"=20
> type=3D"xsd:boolean"
> > > minOccurs=3D"0" maxOccurs=3D"1" default=3D"false"/>
> > >
> > >             <xsd:element name=3D"jdbc-eager-fetch-mode"=20
> minOccurs=3D"0"
> > > maxOccurs=3D"1" default=3D"parallel">
> > >               <xsd:simpleType>
> > >                 <xsd:restriction base=3D"xsd:string">
> > >                   <xsd:enumeration value=3D"parallel"/>
> > >                   <xsd:enumeration value=3D"others"/>
> > >                 </xsd:restriction>
> > >               </xsd:simpleType>
> > >             </xsd:element>
> > >
> > >           </xsd:sequence>
> > >         </xsd:extension>
> > >       </xsd:complexContent>
> > >     </xsd:complexType>
> > >
> > >   </xsd:redefine>
> > >
> > > </xsd:schema>
> > >
> > >
> > > Albert Lee
> > >
> >
> >
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