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From Craig L Russell <Craig.Russ...@Sun.COM>
Subject Re: Two questions on the recent code drop (for now...)
Date Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:49:51 GMT
As Sun makes changes to an active development line for Java EE they  
have changed the license. So it might not be an issue to use Geronimo  
jars for the older ones. I'm still checking on JTA since that has  
just had some active development.

Craig

On Jul 11, 2006, at 4:47 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:

> I got half an answer. The jars that are there are those whose  
> sources are published under Sun's CDDL, not the older Sun Community  
> Source License (SCSL). More info as I get it.
>
> Craig
>
> On Jul 11, 2006, at 4:30 PM, Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
>
>> Craig-
>>
>> It'd be great if we could get the authoritative jars published  
>> there. I know it would ease headaches for a lot of maven projects  
>> that depend on those libraries (that currently require that the  
>> user perform the cumbersome download-and-install-the-sun-libraries  
>> step in order to build).
>>
>> When talking to the engineer in charge, you might want to point  
>> them to http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-coping-with-sun- 
>> jars.html for recommended namings for the deployed jars.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 11, 2006, at 4:20 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:
>>
>>> For the record, https://maven-repository.dev.java.net/nonav/ 
>>> repository/ is the repository that Glassfish development teams  
>>> publish to. I've asked the responsible engineer at Sun about the  
>>> plans for adding JTA, JCA, and JMS to this repository. I'll let  
>>> everyone know when I get an answer.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>> On Jul 11, 2006, at 11:48 AM, Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I'd prefer to go this route than to use the  
>>>>> Geronimo versions, especially for the JPA jars, which have non- 
>>>>> trivial behavior in them.
>>>>
>>>> We actually are using the same JPA jars that Glassfish is using  
>>>> (from a third repository I hadn't mentioned, at https://maven- 
>>>> repository.dev.java.net/repository/javax.persistence/jars/ ).  
>>>> It's the other jars (JTA, JCA, JMS) that, to my knowledge, do  
>>>> not have any other public Maven-friendly distribution available.  
>>>> My understanding is that Glassfish is currently storing their  
>>>> copies of the jars in CVS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 11, 2006, at 11:31 AM, Patrick Linskey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> These must be the Geronimo versions then. I think Glassfish
>>>>>> will have
>>>>>>> the latest versions. As you know, javax.transaction was
>>>>>> just updated
>>>>>>> for Java EE 5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hadn't noticed the Geronimo versions! They seem to contain
>>>>>> everything we need. Once I get SVN write access, I'll fix the
>>>>>> dependencies to use the Geronimo versions, and we can get rid
>>>>>> of the additional repository.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that the Glassfish license is sufficiently clear now,  
>>>>> and I
>>>>> believe that all the Java EE stuff is being maintained in a  
>>>>> maven repo
>>>>> somewhere by the Glassfish folks. Personally, I'd prefer to go  
>>>>> this
>>>>> route than to use the Geronimo versions, especially for the JPA  
>>>>> jars,
>>>>> which have non-trivial behavior in them.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Patrick
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>>> Craig Russell
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>>> products/jdo
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>>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>>
>>
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>> Marc Prud'hommeaux
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>>
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> Craig Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>

Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


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