Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-open-jpa-dev-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 63668 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2006 15:55:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Jun 2006 15:55:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 38446 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jun 2006 15:55:30 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-open-jpa-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 38284 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jun 2006 15:55:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact open-jpa-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 37941 invoked by uid 99); 16 Jun 2006 15:55:27 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:55:27 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.42.249] (HELO nwkea-pix-1.sun.com) (192.18.42.249) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:55:25 -0700 Received: from d1-sfbay-02.sun.com ([192.18.39.112]) by nwkea-pix-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k5GFt54X023654 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.d1-sfbay-02.sun.com by d1-sfbay-02.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) id <0J0Y00F01MLUC200@d1-sfbay-02.sun.com> (original mail from Craig.Russell@Sun.COM) for open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.144.89.206] by d1-sfbay-02.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPSA id <0J0Y006J6MVTK620@d1-sfbay-02.sun.com> for open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 08:55:02 -0700 From: Craig L Russell Subject: Re: Improving the Maven story for GlassFish In-reply-to: <4492268C.5050107@pobox.com> Sender: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org Message-id: <796BAB1E-0F90-473B-97AA-2BE4D71B8F03@SUN.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary=Apple-Mail-121-367411394; micalg=sha1 References: <7D856CDFE035FF45A0420ACBD71BDD630152E6D4@repbex02.amer.bea.com> <98686F8C-D1DA-404C-B9D3-FA60C383F2DA@SUN.com> <4492268C.5050107@pobox.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --Apple-Mail-121-367411394 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Geir, On Jun 15, 2006, at 8:33 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > > Craig L Russell wrote: >> >> Indeed. And I believe that the released Persistence class is >> different >> from the Geronimo implementation (and nothing against the Geronimo >> folks >> but I'd rather use the glassfish implementation and fix bugs in the >> glassfish project than the Geronimo project). >> > > 1) Why? I don't see much value in typing specs into Java code. > > 2) My problem with Glassfish is that you must sign over copyright to > Sun, so they can then relicense your contribution in any way they see > fit without giving symmetrical rights back to you. Seems like it > isn't > a level playing field to me. I'd rather not participate in that > sort of > community development model. I understand. But there's not much IP contributing to a spec jar. I'm not suggesting we contribute to the Reference Implementation. ;-) > > So maybe the solution is just to ask for dispensation from the ASF to > fork the thing and keep a copy here? You say this jokingly but it might be the answer. But I'd still rather try to use the existing open source repository, assuming that they are responsive to fixes and provide patch (nightly) builds. This process might be the one that makes my suggestion a non-starter. Craig > > :) > > geir > Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? 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