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From Geir Magnusson Jr <>
Subject Re: Improving the Maven story for GlassFish
Date Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:44:22 GMT

Craig L Russell wrote:
> Hi Geir,
> On Jun 15, 2006, at 8:33 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>> Craig L Russell wrote:
>>> Indeed. And I believe that the released Persistence class is different
>>> from the Geronimo implementation (and nothing against the Geronimo folks
>>> but I'd rather use the glassfish implementation and fix bugs in the
>>> glassfish project than the Geronimo project).
>> 1) Why?
> I don't see much value in typing specs into Java code.


>> 2) My problem with Glassfish is that you must sign over copyright to
>> Sun, so they can then relicense your contribution in any way they see
>> fit without giving symmetrical rights back to you.  Seems like it isn't
>> a level playing field to me.  I'd rather not participate in that sort of
>> community development model.
> I understand. But there's not much IP contributing to a spec jar. I'm
> not suggesting we contribute to the Reference Implementation. ;-)

I know, but the whole thing is so annoying.  I am confident that Sun
will fix this eventually, but man, I wish they'd trust us and do it
sooner than later.

>> So maybe the solution is just to ask for dispensation from the ASF to
>> fork the thing and keep a copy here?
> You say this jokingly but it might be the answer.

I wasn't really joking, but for something like this where we hope the EG
gets it right, we wouldn't need to contribute back, really, so no, I'm
not really advocating this.

> But I'd still rather
> try to use the existing open source repository, assuming that they are
> responsive to fixes and provide patch (nightly) builds. This process
> might be the one that makes my suggestion a non-starter.
> Craig
>> :)
>> geir
> Craig Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System
> 408 276-5638
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

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