Patrick Linskey wrote:
>> I don't think the fact your using BEA e-mail is an issue.
>> Its really the legal content of the epilogue that I think has
>> people concerned.
>
> Understood.
>
>> Although someone in the ASF could probably do something I
>> think you'd be the first person they did it for :) I think
>> modifying the contents of anyone's e-mail is a bad precedent.
>
> See below.
>
>> I'm in the same boat as you as my IBM account generated lots
>> of additional attatchements that people asked me to remove.
>> I cannot configure Notes to do that so I changed to my
>> personal account.
>
> Based on my understanding, many people (yourself included) have run into
> this problem. Seems to me as though the Apache community doesn't like
> this, and forces all incoming developers to change the way they work in
> order to better fit the Apache Way. Seems awfully intrusive from a
> new-employee standpoint.
Well, yes - there are community standards. For example, we don't like
HTML or RTF mail. We don't like non-compliant mail. We prefer if people
don't verbally abuse others. Yet all of those are normal ways I've seen
people work elsewhere.
>
> It seems to me like it's in Apache's best interest to either
> collectively not care about this sort of thing, or help provide a fix on
> their side, rather than potentially asking every incoming developer to
> change the way they work.
I think of it as respecting local custom when you travel or when you
visit someones house, or when you get a new job.
You never included legal gibberish in your email before joining BEA -
how hard did you push there to not have your email client send it w/
ever mail? :)
>
>> Also, If I left IBM I would most likely
>> continue working on the projects that I'm currently part of
>> so a private e-mail allows me that freedom.
>
> Well, not really -- I think that it's the ICLA and the employment laws
> in the US that allow you to continue working on projects after leaving
> IBM. I'd be surprised if Apache would not allow people with new email
> addresses to participate in projects.
I think you are missing Matt's point... No one cares what email address
mail is posted from, we just care about the content.
geir
>
> -Patrick
Maybe we can have BEA change it to the following...
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain
> information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated
> entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or
> legally privileged, and BEA hereby grants to you all rights as specified
> in the Apache License and the CCLA to anyone receiving this message. If
> you are not the intended recipient, it doesn't matter because of the
> Apache License, so please forward to anyone who may find it useful.
> Think Fluid!
>
:)
geir
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