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From Lewis John Mcgibbney <lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: OODT Website Changes (Redux)
Date Thu, 07 Apr 2016 06:05:06 GMT
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On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Chris Mattmann <chris.mattmann@gmail.com>
wrote:

> All of this is looking great, Tom. There’s real
> substance here and something for us to build on.
>
> —
> Chris Mattmann
> chris.mattmann@gmail.com <javascript:;>
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> On 4/6/16, 7:33 PM, "Tom Barber" <tom.barber@meteorite.bi <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> >Alright here's a summary of today's experimentation:
> >
> >Created a basic documentation page to test out a few things. Tabs work
> >quite well, and kbd tags on the radix page look pretty good to attract
> >users. Clearly that whole section would need more work, its just a test
> bed
> >of ideas currently.
> >
> >http://buggtb.github.io/oodt-website/documentation.html
> >
> >Community page is also tabular, the about page is basically a 1:1 copy of
> >the existing stuff, the team page is cool because the PMC list is
> generated
> >directly from the Apache Phonebook (I noticed the one on the main site is
> >already out of date! ;) )
> >
> >http://buggtb.github.io/oodt-website/community.html
> >
> >
> >Downloads page, again, this uses a configuration parameter to dynamically
> >generate the links to the correct version and the previous releases down
> >the right hand side, this is great for the release process as all someone
> >has to do is when a VOTE is accepted and the mirrors are live, is paste
> >about 3 lines of code into the site and check it in, at which point the
> >downloads page is up to date once more (although we could probably write a
> >plugin to automate this as well ;))
> >
> >http://buggtb.github.io/oodt-website/download.html
> >
> >
> >Anyway, like I said, work in progress, I'm soliciting feedback more than
> >anything else. In reality the site docs wouldn't live directly under the
> >components menu heading but it was a good place to put them for now, also
> >it wouldn't take much to have them use the same stylesheets as the main
> >site and also link back to the main site as well, making them feel more
> >integrated.
> >
> >It needs more diagrams and colour, to break it up still, but I think as a
> >POC it's coming along alright.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
> >lewis.mcgibbney@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >> Bingo
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Tom Barber <tom.barber@meteorite.bi
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thanks Lewis! I think with stuff like this its hard to fully explain
> over
> >> > email without a 10000 word essay.
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, I said I'd leave it but I got bored so I wondered what else
> >> Jekyll
> >> > could do to help us and here's a couple of things I came up with:
> >> >
> >> > https://github.com/buggtb/oodt-website/blob/gh-pages/_config.yml#L29
> >> >
> >> > The downloads page on the CMS is manually updated, but you know me, I
> >> love
> >> > a bit of automation, so in Jekyll we could dump the release info in
> here
> >> > and watch it magically build:
> >> >
> >> >
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8503756/oodt-website/download.html
> >> >
> >> > That way it should be dead simple to keep the download page up to
> date.
> >> >
> >> > I then wondered about other stuff so I looked at the PMC list, it'll
> get
> >> > stale easily, so what could I do to sort that out:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> https://github.com/buggtb/oodt-website/blob/gh-pages/_plugins/pcm_generator.rb
> >> >
> >> > Greps the new ASF phone book and extracts our PMC members, as I'm a
> >> giving
> >> > kind of guy, I'll parametrize it and Joshua or whatever can use it as
> >> well
> >> > when its done.
> >> >
> >> > Currently the PMC list is on the download page, ignore that it was
> just
> >> for
> >> > testing.
> >> >
> >> > Anyway there you go. Couple more nuggets that could make the website
> >> > maintenance a whole lot simpler.
> >> >
> >> > Tom
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
> >> > lewis.mcgibbney@gmail.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>
wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Tom,
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:59 AM, Tom Barber <
> tom.barber@meteorite.bi <javascript:;>
> >> > <javascript:;>>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > When I took over the chair from SK, my unofficial aim was to
use
> this
> >> > > chair
> >> > > > period to try and get the business users involved, my day job
> >> requires
> >> > me
> >> > > > to drive users to our product and get them interested enough
to
> test
> >> > it,
> >> > > > whilst OODT isn't commercial, ultimately the goal is the same,
to
> >> gain
> >> > > > users and community members, we need users, and we need users
who
> >> don't
> >> > > > just work in the scientific domain. Whilst the odd person might
> swing
> >> > by
> >> > > > the mailing list, in reality, 99% of users will land on the
> homepage,
> >> > and
> >> > > > that is the determining factor as to whether they bother to
> >> investigate
> >> > > > further. Which is why I spend a lot of time prioritising stuff
> that
> >> > > doesn't
> >> > > > really make a lot of sense to the rest of you! :)
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > For the record its worth me stating here that I totally understand
> your
> >> > > PoV. When you showed me your BI workflow examples way back
> @ApacheCon I
> >> > > realized that your use cases were different. It's very refreshing
to
> >> see
> >> > > software re-purposed or presented in a different manner. An eye
> opener
> >> so
> >> > > to speak.
> >> > > Look forward to seeing what kind of roadmap we come up with
> @ApacheCon
> >> > this
> >> > > year again.
> >> > > Ta
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> *Lewis*
> >>
>
>

-- 
*Lewis*

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