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From Lewis John Mcgibbney <lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: OODT Website Changes (Redux)
Date Thu, 07 Apr 2016 16:02:56 GMT
Yep Tom.
BOOM
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OODT/Meetups

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Tom Barber <tom.barber@meteorite.bi> wrote:

> Ta.
>
> Might be worth putting a few hours work in at ApacheCon with Lewis.
>
> @lewis with this and the distributed FM and stuff, might be worth putting
> together a little agenda of stuff we could plan/test/dev whilst we're
> there.
>
> Tom
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:05 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
> lewis.mcgibbney@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sorted
> >
> > On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Chris Mattmann <chris.mattmann@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > All of this is looking great, Tom. There’s real
> > > substance here and something for us to build on.
> > >
> > > —
> > > Chris Mattmann
> > > chris.mattmann@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/6/16, 7:33 PM, "Tom Barber" <tom.barber@meteorite.bi
> > <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Alright here's a summary of today's experimentation:
> > > >
> > > >Created a basic documentation page to test out a few things. Tabs work
> > > >quite well, and kbd tags on the radix page look pretty good to attract
> > > >users. Clearly that whole section would need more work, its just a
> test
> > > bed
> > > >of ideas currently.
> > > >
> > > >http://buggtb.github.io/oodt-website/documentation.html
> > > >
> > > >Community page is also tabular, the about page is basically a 1:1 copy
> > of
> > > >the existing stuff, the team page is cool because the PMC list is
> > > generated
> > > >directly from the Apache Phonebook (I noticed the one on the main site
> > is
> > > >already out of date! ;) )
> > > >
> > > >http://buggtb.github.io/oodt-website/community.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Downloads page, again, this uses a configuration parameter to
> > dynamically
> > > >generate the links to the correct version and the previous releases
> down
> > > >the right hand side, this is great for the release process as all
> > someone
> > > >has to do is when a VOTE is accepted and the mirrors are live, is
> paste
> > > >about 3 lines of code into the site and check it in, at which point
> the
> > > >downloads page is up to date once more (although we could probably
> > write a
> > > >plugin to automate this as well ;))
> > > >
> > > >http://buggtb.github.io/oodt-website/download.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Anyway, like I said, work in progress, I'm soliciting feedback more
> than
> > > >anything else. In reality the site docs wouldn't live directly under
> the
> > > >components menu heading but it was a good place to put them for now,
> > also
> > > >it wouldn't take much to have them use the same stylesheets as the
> main
> > > >site and also link back to the main site as well, making them feel
> more
> > > >integrated.
> > > >
> > > >It needs more diagrams and colour, to break it up still, but I think
> as
> > a
> > > >POC it's coming along alright.
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >
> > > >Tom
> > > >
> > > >On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
> > > >lewis.mcgibbney@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Bingo
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Tom Barber <tom.barber@meteorite.bi
> > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Thanks Lewis! I think with stuff like this its hard to fully
> explain
> > > over
> > > >> > email without a 10000 word essay.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Anyway, I said I'd leave it but I got bored so I wondered what
> else
> > > >> Jekyll
> > > >> > could do to help us and here's a couple of things I came up with:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > https://github.com/buggtb/oodt-website/blob/gh-pages/_config.yml#L29
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The downloads page on the CMS is manually updated, but you know
> me,
> > I
> > > >> love
> > > >> > a bit of automation, so in Jekyll we could dump the release info
> in
> > > here
> > > >> > and watch it magically build:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8503756/oodt-website/download.html
> > > >> >
> > > >> > That way it should be dead simple to keep the download page up
to
> > > date.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I then wondered about other stuff so I looked at the PMC list,
> it'll
> > > get
> > > >> > stale easily, so what could I do to sort that out:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/buggtb/oodt-website/blob/gh-pages/_plugins/pcm_generator.rb
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Greps the new ASF phone book and extracts our PMC members, as
I'm
> a
> > > >> giving
> > > >> > kind of guy, I'll parametrize it and Joshua or whatever can use
it
> > as
> > > >> well
> > > >> > when its done.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Currently the PMC list is on the download page, ignore that it
was
> > > just
> > > >> for
> > > >> > testing.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Anyway there you go. Couple more nuggets that could make the
> website
> > > >> > maintenance a whole lot simpler.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Tom
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
> > > >> > lewis.mcgibbney@gmail.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>
wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Hi Tom,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:59 AM, Tom Barber <
> > > tom.barber@meteorite.bi <javascript:;>
> > > >> > <javascript:;>>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > When I took over the chair from SK, my unofficial aim
was to
> use
> > > this
> > > >> > > chair
> > > >> > > > period to try and get the business users involved,
my day job
> > > >> requires
> > > >> > me
> > > >> > > > to drive users to our product and get them interested
enough
> to
> > > test
> > > >> > it,
> > > >> > > > whilst OODT isn't commercial, ultimately the goal is
the same,
> > to
> > > >> gain
> > > >> > > > users and community members, we need users, and we
need users
> > who
> > > >> don't
> > > >> > > > just work in the scientific domain. Whilst the odd
person
> might
> > > swing
> > > >> > by
> > > >> > > > the mailing list, in reality, 99% of users will land
on the
> > > homepage,
> > > >> > and
> > > >> > > > that is the determining factor as to whether they bother
to
> > > >> investigate
> > > >> > > > further. Which is why I spend a lot of time prioritising
stuff
> > > that
> > > >> > > doesn't
> > > >> > > > really make a lot of sense to the rest of you! :)
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > For the record its worth me stating here that I totally
> understand
> > > your
> > > >> > > PoV. When you showed me your BI workflow examples way back
> > > @ApacheCon I
> > > >> > > realized that your use cases were different. It's very
> refreshing
> > to
> > > >> see
> > > >> > > software re-purposed or presented in a different manner.
An eye
> > > opener
> > > >> so
> > > >> > > to speak.
> > > >> > > Look forward to seeing what kind of roadmap we come up with
> > > @ApacheCon
> > > >> > this
> > > >> > > year again.
> > > >> > > Ta
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> *Lewis*
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > *Lewis*
> >
>



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*Lewis*

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