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From Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org>
Subject Re: OODT book proposal
Date Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:38:02 GMT
I’d of course be happy to help.

—
Chris Mattmann
chris.mattmann@gmail.com






-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Barber <tom.barber@meteorite.bi>
Reply-To: <dev@oodt.apache.org>
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 7:52 AM
To: <dev@oodt.apache.org>
Subject: Re: OODT book proposal

>I'd also be interested in writing the draft in markdown storing it on
>github and using an open license to create it if people think that's a
>good
>idea. Although I'm wary of packt just running off with it.
>On 27 Aug 2015 4:41 pm, "Tom Barber" <tom.barber@meteorite.bi> wrote:
>
>> Hi chaps and chapesses,
>>
>> Wiley don't know a good idea when they see one and turned down our book
>> proposal, booo. The good thing is in the process they have helped us
>>write
>> the TOC and indicate standard timeframes for writing the chapters. So I
>> would like to pursue this idea anyway, yay.
>>
>> My plan is to self publish using leanpub, because I think it will be
>> easier for me personally, but also gives us flexibility with the book
>>and
>> saves us selling our souls to Pact or dealing with the other publishing
>> houses on what is quite a specific subject matter. Similarly a paper
>> publisher might pick it up down the line or we can create our own print
>>run
>> if there is a demand.
>>
>> Anyway, those who said they might be interested in helping with the
>>book,
>> are you still interested? If so let me know and we'll sort it out, if
>>we go
>> the self publishing route we need to figure out how much the
>> min/recommended price is and how we split whatever minuscule sum we
>>make.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Tom Barber <tom.barber@meteorite.bi>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Will do chief
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Chris Mattmann
>>><chris.mattmann@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think you should re-engage him - please keep the
>>>> momentum going feel free to CC me and I’ll help.
>>>>
>>>> —
>>>> Chris Mattmann
>>>> chris.mattmann@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Tom Barber <tom.barber@meteorite.bi>
>>>> Reply-To: <dev@oodt.apache.org>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 1:06 PM
>>>> To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal
>>>>
>>>> >I went through a bunch of proposal writing with the guy, then he just
>>>> >disappeared so I guess he got bored.
>>>> >
>>>> >On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <
>>>> >chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hey Tom - where are we at on the book? did you move forward with
>>>>it?
>>>> >> Cheers
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>> >> Chief Architect
>>>> >> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
>>>> >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>> >> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
>>>> >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>>> >> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> >> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>> >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> From: Tom Barber <tom.barber@meteorite.bi>
>>>> >> Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org>
>>>> >> Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 7:38 AM
>>>> >> To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" <dev@oodt.apache.org>
>>>> >> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >Thanks Chris.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Eva, I think we can probably include that stuff within one of
the
>>>> >>existing
>>>> >> >tutorial sections as your ideas aren't too crazy ;)
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Tom
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <
>>>> >> >chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> you have to have a chapter on NASA earth science missions
:)
>>>> >> >> I added it..good luck!
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> ________________________________________
>>>> >> >> From: Tom Barber [tom.barber@meteorite.bi]
>>>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:52 AM
>>>> >> >> To: dev@oodt.apache.org
>>>> >> >> Subject: Re: OODT book proposal
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Alright chaps this is pretty last minute as I have to chat
to
>>>>the
>>>> guy
>>>> >> >>from
>>>> >> >> Manning tomorrow so if anyone has 5 minutes, can you scan:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> 
>>>>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dGVf0j25WzXZCyTyuX9aMmmQ06yAPLOFtuT
>>>>FZ
>>>> >> >>e-0aXk/edit?usp=sharing
>>>> >> >> and add anything you think is missing. The link is open
to all
>>>>so
>>>> you
>>>> >> >> should be able to add/change entries, just italicise them
or
>>>> >>something
>>>> >> >>so I
>>>> >> >> can spot them.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Thanks
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Tom
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Tom Barber <
>>>> tom.barber@meteorite.bi>
>>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> > Thanks for the feedback guys.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > The chat I had with the chap was certainly around
a full book
>>>>as
>>>> I
>>>> >> >>have
>>>> >> >> to
>>>> >> >> > pitch 9 - 14 chapters. He did say they are trying
to move away
>>>> from
>>>> >> >> generic
>>>> >> >> > platform books so I think pitching it in the style
of a look
>>>>at
>>>> all
>>>> >> >>the
>>>> >> >> > main components and heavy on the real world how-to
and use
>>>>cases
>>>> >> >>would be
>>>> >> >> > the way I'm tending to go along with a load of stuff
on the
>>>>value
>>>> >>of
>>>> >> >> > metadata etc.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > We discussed use case ideas and I went over some of
the crazy
>>>> NASA
>>>> >> >>stuff
>>>> >> >> > which he said I should include and also a bunch of
real world
>>>>use
>>>> >> >> > cases(smart meters/regulatory compliance application
and stuff
>>>> >>from my
>>>> >> >> day
>>>> >> >> > job), but of course, you lot don't live in the real
world so
>>>> you'll
>>>> >> >>have
>>>> >> >> to
>>>> >> >> > leave that to me ;)
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > On 1.0 I'm sure it will come out during the time we
would
>>>>spend
>>>> >> >>writing a
>>>> >> >> > book.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > I'll come back with a draft toc tonight or tomorrow
and those
>>>> >> >>interested
>>>> >> >> > can add their 10 cents.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Tom
>>>> >> >> > On 20 May 2015 18:26, "Lewis John Mcgibbney"
>>>> >> >><lewis.mcgibbney@gmail.com>
>>>> >> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> Spoke to Tom White a while ago @ApacheCon about
this very
>>>>topic
>>>> >>folks
>>>> >> >> with
>>>> >> >> >> one interesting outcome.
>>>> >> >> >> Many publishers (I don't know about Manning, however
Chris
>>>>will
>>>> >> >>likely
>>>> >> >> >> know) are interested in Microbooks or picket guides
as well.
>>>> >> >> >> An example is the following
>>>> >> >> >> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596007430.do
>>>> >> >> >> I don't know if this fits for something like OODT
but you
>>>>guys
>>>> can
>>>> >> >> >> consider.
>>>> >> >> >> Lewis
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Chris Mattmann
<
>>>> >> >> >> chris.mattmann@gmail.com>
>>>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> > Thanks Mike. I don’t think 1.0 is required
>>>> >> >> >> > *before* writing the book, but can happen
>>>> >> >> >> > while the book is going on (and be pushed
in
>>>> >> >> >> > many cases by the book!) :)
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > We had the same scenario with Tika in Action.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Cheers,
>>>> >> >> >> > Chris
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > ------------------------
>>>> >> >> >> > Chris Mattmann
>>>> >> >> >> > chris.mattmann@gmail.com
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> >> >> > From: Michael Starch <starchmd@umich.edu>
>>>> >> >> >> > Reply-To: <dev@oodt.apache.org>
>>>> >> >> >> > Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 at 10:10 AM
>>>> >> >> >> > To: <dev@oodt.apache.org>
>>>> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: OODT book proposal
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > >I am definitely up for this.  Are we
going to push for an
>>>> >>OODT-1.0
>>>> >> >> >> > >"polished" released before we write a
book?  There seem to
>>>> be a
>>>> >> >>lot
>>>> >> >> of
>>>> >> >> >> > >very
>>>> >> >> >> > >nice features in the pipe, which will
affect the content
>>>>of a
>>>> >> >>book.
>>>> >> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >Regardless, I believe the following may
be helpful for the
>>>> >>book.
>>>> >> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >    - Setting Up OODT
>>>> >> >> >> > >    - Major OODT Components
>>>> >> >> >> > >    - Extending OODT
>>>> >> >> >> > >    - OODT in Operations
>>>> >> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >-Michael
>>>> >> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Freeborn,
Dana J (398G) <
>>>> >> >> >> > >dana.j.freeborn@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Hi Tom,
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> This is great.  I would be happy
to contribute to the
>>>>book
>>>> >>if my
>>>> >> >> >> level
>>>> >> >> >> > >>of
>>>> >> >> >> > >> experience with OODT (which is high)
is helpful.  It's
>>>>not
>>>> >> >>clear to
>>>> >> >> >> me
>>>> >> >> >> > >>your
>>>> >> >> >> > >> focus for the book, so you'll just
have to tap me if I
>>>>can
>>>> >> >> >> contribute.
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Paul and Chris will know if I do.
 Otherwise, I will
>>>>cheer
>>>> on
>>>> >> >>your
>>>> >> >> >> > >> efforts.  :-)
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Thanks,
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Dana
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> From: Tom Barber
>>>> >> >> >> > >><tom.barber@meteorite.bi<mailto:tom.barber@meteorite.bi>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Reply-To:
>>>>"dev@oodt.apache.org<mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>"
>>>> <
>>>> >> >> >> > >> dev@oodt.apache.org<mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 2:02
AM
>>>> >> >> >> > >> To: "dev@oodt.apache.org<mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>"
>>>> >> >> >> > >><dev@oodt.apache.org
>>>> >> >> >> > >> <mailto:dev@oodt.apache.org>>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Subject: OODT book proposal
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Hi guys,
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> I was on the phone to Manning today
about an OODT book
>>>>that
>>>> >>me,
>>>> >> >> Chris
>>>> >> >> >> > >>and
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Mike Starch mulled over in Texas.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> I've been tasked with coming up
with a TOC as the
>>>>proposal
>>>> so
>>>> >> >>I'll
>>>> >> >> >> knock
>>>> >> >> >> > >> something together and share it
later in the week, but
>>>>on
>>>> >>this
>>>> >> >> topic.
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> a) Does anyone have anything they'd
especially like to
>>>>see
>>>> >>in an
>>>> >> >> OODT
>>>> >> >> >> > >>book?
>>>> >> >> >> > >> b) Does anyone want to help donate
some hours writing a
>>>>bit
>>>> >>of
>>>> >> >>the
>>>> >> >> >> book
>>>> >> >> >> > >> (won't be any time soon and takes
months so don't worry
>>>> about
>>>> >> >>it,
>>>> >> >> >> and I
>>>> >> >> >> > >> wont hold you to it, just looking
for interest)
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >> Tom
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> > >>
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> --
>>>> >> >> >> *Lewis*
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>



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