Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-oodt-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-oodt-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABB6F9A11 for ; Wed, 22 May 2013 01:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 46912 invoked by uid 500); 22 May 2013 01:05:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-oodt-dev-archive@oodt.apache.org Received: (qmail 46888 invoked by uid 500); 22 May 2013 01:05:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@oodt.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@oodt.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@oodt.apache.org Received: (qmail 46880 invoked by uid 99); 22 May 2013 01:05:58 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 May 2013 01:05:58 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of mltjoyce@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.212.47] (HELO mail-vb0-f47.google.com) (209.85.212.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 May 2013 01:05:54 +0000 Received: by mail-vb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id x13so890041vbb.6 for ; Tue, 21 May 2013 18:05:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=hLmnAV0MohURSIoTecmWedDHDsdeOc/KQKAoKeY+dKc=; b=sYqeI8cL1bfioHN+nyR9ymk71l7i0l4dHmqxwRvqcrV14zekBZc+4fprrXd761c/cm guNWbuwlHTOdrw9yxG0u0nZl+Pzt+ofXnsHU8tPgPzjz6eKMpDSxGSx4on3pzOLiuo1B jAZ6P3Wo2mBVTCVFPhymnpIGKQQnmzUoiPHh5UFhaTif2g2hmU7N/dfmGHPkVC64yQ3Y QjiUkO9mEEA0ziXTSppUR16TlFXojlfIvFqUtOkSNZY8eOflutgktpE643i8alzY/vrt AI0k/ZNXU4sRS/seQhWqE7JgyIp9p1EPYfDpIqmqcjGGmKGYSXaYsNlJz+ILnGoWao5C ut3g== X-Received: by 10.220.188.201 with SMTP id db9mr1917675vcb.30.1369184733063; Tue, 21 May 2013 18:05:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: mltjoyce@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.152.134 with HTTP; Tue, 21 May 2013 18:04:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <03e001ce5684$2a1e6570$7e5b3050$@16degrees.com.au> References: <008c01ce547c$dd326b70$97974250$@16degrees.com.au> <03e001ce5684$2a1e6570$7e5b3050$@16degrees.com.au> From: Michael Joyce Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 18:04:52 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IwYxH8XylQWVbvhLe6jQQQ1nOWE Message-ID: Subject: Re: JIRA label for new users To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1bda2a5710204dd442967 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --001a11c1bda2a5710204dd442967 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Awesome, thanks Gav!! -- Joyce On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: > Ok so I've implemented this using the labels suggested. > > Someone should change the default skill level to any issues they are > familiar with to what is appropriate. > > Gav... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mltjoyce@gmail.com [mailto:mltjoyce@gmail.com] On Behalf Of > > Michael Joyce > > Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2013 1:14 AM > > To: dev@oodt.apache.org > > Subject: Re: JIRA label for new users > > > > +1 on this Gavin. > > > > Re. actual label names, how about a name followed by an (explanation) of > > the difficulty level: > > > > Don't Know > > Newcomer (Easy) - Everyone can do this level Committer (Medium) - This is > > for regular contributors/committers. Where the vast majority of issues > would > > fall. > > Expert (Hard) or Guru or ChrisMattmann or whatever everyone likes for > > "hard" - Used sparingly when an issue requires expert component > > knowledge > > > > We could default the field to "Don't Know" so every issue always has some > > level? > > > > I like the CouchDB approach but I feel they have too many options. > > Easy > > Easy - Medium > > Medium - Hard > > Really Really Hard (Their Guru level) > > > > So, when something is "Medium," which category does it fall into? I think > the > > most important part of this system is identifying the difficulty for > > newcomers. The other levels are just nice to have in my opinion. That > being > > said, I think simpler is better here. > > > > What do you guys think? > > > > > > -- Joyce > > > > > > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Rajith Siriwardana < > > rajithsiriwardana@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > +1 for having a label for issues that new users can help to resolve. > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) < > > > chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Gav. +1 to using a controlled value field to make the labels > > > > meaningful. > > > > > > > > Let's see what others think but I am for sure +1. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ++++++++ > > > > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > > > > Senior Computer Scientist > > > > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > > > > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 > > > > Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov > > > > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ++++++++ > > > > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University > > > > of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ++++++++ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Gavin McDonald > > > > Organization: 16 degrees complete web solutions > > > > Reply-To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" , > > > > "gavin@16degrees.com.au" > > > > Date: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:37 AM > > > > To: "dev@oodt.apache.org" > > > > Subject: RE: JIRA label for new users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > >> From: Mattmann, Chris A (398J) > > > > >> [mailto:chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov] > > > > >> Sent: Friday, 17 May 2013 1:37 AM > > > > >> To: dev@climate.incubator.apache.org > > > > >> Cc: dev@oodt.apache.org > > > > >> Subject: Re: JIRA label for new users > > > > >> > > > > >> Great idea, please implement on OODT too! (cc to dev@oodt for > > > > >> peeps) > > > :) > > > > > > > > > >We can start to use labels now for jira tickets, we just need an > > > > >agreed and documented set of labels. Why? Too many labels and we > > > > >run the risk of there being too many and they sort of Lose the > > > > >impact and meaning. So a few well-chosen labels for attention > > > > >grabbing is needed. > > > > > > > > > >Every Jira ticket has a Labels section so this is available now. > > > > > > > > > >However, my main point of this mail, is that we can add custom > > > > >fields to our issues. Some projects have done such a thing, some, > > > > >like the couchdb project, have > > > implemented a > > > > >drop down field in > > > > >their jiras so that anyone at a glance can determine if the ticket > > > > >is newcomer, contributor, committer, hardcore project guru or Greg > > > > >Stein level. (OK so I made that last > > > level > > > > >up, but really, the choice of drop down field name is ours to > > > > >decide) > > > > > > > > > >Pop on over to the couchdb jira and take a look. > > > > > > > > > >I am happy to implement this in the OODT Jira if you agree it a > > > > >good idea. > > > > > > > > > >I'm a big +1 ftr > > > > > > > > > >Gav... > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> Cheers, > > > > >> Chris > > > > >> > > > > >> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > >> ++++++++ > > > > >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > > > > >> Senior Computer Scientist > > > > >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > > > > >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 > > > > >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov > > > > >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > > > > >> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > >> ++++++++ > > > > >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department > > > > >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > > > > >> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > >> ++++++++ > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > >> From: Michael Joyce > > > > >> Reply-To: "dev@climate.incubator.apache.org" > > > > >> > > > > >> Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:34 PM > > > > >> To: dev > > > > >> Subject: JIRA label for new users > > > > >> > > > > >> >I sent this link around to a few people via twitter but I > > > > >> >figured it warranted being sent here as well! > > > > >> > > > > > >> >http://nikcodes.com/2013/05/10/new-contributor-jump-in/ > > > > >> > > > > > >> >TLDR: Every OSS project should have a label for issues that new > > > > >> >users could help resolve. Basically a "this is simple enough > > > > >> >that a new > > > user > > > > >> >could figure it out and contribute back to the project" tag. > > > > >> > > > > > >> >This shouldn't be a tag for features/issues that the core team > > > doesn't > > > > >> >want to deal with. Mostly it should be for fairly simple > > > > >> >auxiliary issues that won't take forever to debug/implement but > > > > >> >that the core team doesn't necessarily have time to deal with. > > > > >> > > > > > >> >I think this is a great idea. When I first started on OODT this > > > > >> >would have been the coolest thing ever. I think it would be > > > > >> >great to have a section devoted to "getting started" on the > > > > >> >website that mentions > > > this > > > > >>as > > > > >> well. > > > > >> >Then it would be really easy for new developers to jump in and > help. > > > I > > > > >> >would be more than happy to help get this up and running as well. > > > > >> > > > > > >> >Thoughts? Terrible/great idea? Ideas for a label name? > > > > >> > > > > > >> >-- Joyce > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --001a11c1bda2a5710204dd442967--