From user-return-53876-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@ofbiz.apache.org Thu May 24 18:36:58 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B3B2180636 for ; Thu, 24 May 2018 18:36:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 71059 invoked by uid 500); 24 May 2018 16:36:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@ofbiz.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@ofbiz.apache.org Received: (qmail 71048 invoked by uid 99); 24 May 2018 16:36:57 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org) (207.244.88.152) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 24 May 2018 16:36:56 +0000 Received: from mail-vk0-f43.google.com (mail-vk0-f43.google.com [209.85.213.43]) by mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id F3353C47 for ; Thu, 24 May 2018 16:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk0-f43.google.com with SMTP id 131-v6so1404579vkf.8 for ; Thu, 24 May 2018 09:36:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdqwdOxN/ydl6zKw1rtLazpSFWU9P77kPCjsG7ye7OI6aSKzPIE rS8iKEegX3iZwcnkdRfRXeSLXVwkjgNjivEbtsA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZoIpz8V7Hze9yJ8QmjF6fxi8mIqnCl7kxW/lLp95hwdQAdgynbZcqhN3m+PhjpxNubSYN29YTsi5JSfuwMvp8c= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:de04:: with SMTP id v4-v6mr5097638vkg.87.1527179815287; Thu, 24 May 2018 09:36:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:5059:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 24 May 2018 09:36:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Pierre Smits Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 18:36:54 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: OFBiz MRP & Manufacturing: subcontract-work To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000066045f056cf64269" --00000000000066045f056cf64269 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hey Wolfang, Unfortunately the ASF removes attachments from emails sent to mailing lists. Best regards, Pierre Smits Apache Trafodion , Vice President Apache Directory , PMC Member Apache Incubator , committer Apache OFBiz , contributor since 2008 Apache Steve , committer On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz < wp.rauchholz@gmail.com> wrote: > Attached a simplified process description of the scenario to be > implemented: > Important is: > (1) Company controls cost of out-sourced production > (2) Company retains title of ownership of raw material @ sub-contractor > site > > To make this process as automatic as possible, it would be helpful if a PO > is created automatically when work order (WO) is released and that WO is > closed once that PO was received. > Is this possible? > > Wolfgang > > > > > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Pierre Smits > wrote: > >> Are we addressing here the supply chain involving an OEM (see [1]) where >> one manucaturer produces parts (or even the entire product) for a >> 'manufacturer' that incorporates it into its product (think Foxconn >> producing for Apple)? >> >> Or are we addressing the issue of having people participating in the >> manufacturing process? >> >> If it is the latter case, then this becomes like a 'hiring a temp' >> business >> case handled between HRM and the Purchasing Department (establishing >> service agreements) to raise the correct 'service' P.O. >> >> If it is the first case (supply chain) then it is way more complex. >> >> Looking at this from the the viewpoint of the Manufacturing Manager of >> internal company (the party using OFBiz) and the OEM providing parts to >> the >> production run at the right moment in time (JIT), a task to produce the >> part would - for some -make sense. But if we're talking JIT delivery, then >> it is actually not a production step, but rather the delivery of the part >> to the warehouse just before the ProductionRun (or even a task therein) is >> started. Making it more an issue of setting correct facility and order >> thresholds for the component in the catalog app. When the ProductionRun is >> confirmed (in the Manufacturing component, by the Manufacturing Manager) , >> the ATP should be checked and if it doesn't meet the ProductionRun >> requirements it should trigger the creation of the P.O. >> >> Entity-wise everything is in place. SECA-wise there might be some gaps. >> >> All in all there is more to this (more details - business analysis- >> required than outlined outlined in the various postings in this thread. >> >> >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_equipment_manufacturer >> >> Best regards, >> >> Pierre Smits >> >> Apache Trafodion , Vice President >> Apache Directory , PMC Member >> Apache Incubator , committer >> Apache OFBiz , contributor since 2008 >> Apache Steve , committer >> >> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 2:40 PM, wp.rauchholz@gmail.com < >> wp.rauchholz@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> > Following up on you discussion of sub-contracting. I am testing too. >> > I defined the BOM and routing task with type Subcontracting. This >> routing >> > task was assigned a routing and all components that go to the >> subcontractor >> > were added using 'EDIT ROUTING PRODUCT LINK'. >> > When releasing a work order, the system does not seem to create a PO >> > automatically. >> > This PO should have the components attached and move the material from >> > their inventory to the sub-contractor facility. By receiving the PO >> back, >> > the task in work order should close too. >> > Am I missing something or does this functionality not exist? >> > >> > How do I do a BOM / routing cost roll-up over the standard BOM/routing >> to >> > set the standard cost? >> > >> > Thanks, Wolfgang >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Wolfgang Rauchholz > > > > --00000000000066045f056cf64269--