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From Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
Subject Re: OFBiz Documentation Team Volunteers Needed
Date Thu, 08 Feb 2018 14:41:50 GMT
I agree, actually as experience learned us, to create a good documentation is more a question
of structuring the documentation to avoid what we have 
now in Confluence: a mess with a lot of obsolete (or hard to tell) pages :D

By using asciidoc, a version control tools to have the documentation as OFBiz code it should
be easier to avoid that.

I note though that it's all about reviewing, it was already possible in Confluence but it
did not work because it was harder to follow, organise and 

I think we already agreed about using Confluence as less as possible. Mostly for important
generic points like Guides, FAQ, Tutos, etc.

In Confluence we can also import data from svn, it's already used for some specific stuff
like Gradle.

I use https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/tools/updateWiki.bat for that, not sure it's
the best way, but for now it helps. The basic idea is to 
have a SPOF (ie only one place for the source).

So we could for instance migrate, after cleaning and deleting a lot, the important Confluence
content to keep in a main documentation sub-dir (under 
OFBiz root) under a format or another and render it automatically in HTML format to import
into Confluence

I read that some projects use o want to use BuibBot/Jenkins and https://jekyllrb.com/ for
doing somehow that

Just an idea...


Le 08/02/2018 à 14:25, Michael Brohl a écrit :
> +++1 for manually reviewing, updating, restructuring and enhancing the documentation
instead of copy & paste!
> We know that the documentation has very different quality, is sometimes outdated or too
brief etc.
> I think it is of more value to take the chance to make the documentation itself better
in the course of the migration instead of simply having the 
> old state in a new format.
> We should maybe also agree on writing new documentation (or anhancing a good amount of
documentation) directly in the new format instead of putting 
> it in confluence 8if applicable)?
> Thanks,
> Michael
> Am 08.02.18 um 11:33 schrieb Taher Alkhateeb:
>> It is heartwarming to see you fine people signing up. I am thrilled
>> and looking forward to working with you. And I have to say Sharan
>> knows how to bring us together, so thank you!
>> In reference to Olivier's comment regarding using conversion tools, I
>> would advise to perhaps try to be careful. Our objective is not
>> necessarily to copy-paste existing documentation, but rather to write
>> clean, relevant and well thought out documentation. If an old piece of
>> documentation is good and relevant, we use it, if not, we update it
>> and clean it, or of it is not useful then we just drop it.
>> I hope more people feel the urge to sign up. What you folks are going
>> to achieve is to make OFBiz much more competitive by giving
>> accessibility to new comers through comprehensive documentation.
>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Aditya Sharma
>> <aditya.sharma@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Sharan,
>>> Please count me in.
>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>> *Aditya Sharma* | Enterprise Software Engineer
>>> HotWax Commerce <http://www.hotwax.co/> by HotWax Systems
>>> <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/aditya-sharma-78291810a/>
>>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Olivier Heintz <
>>> holivier.lists@ofbizextra.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi Sharan,
>>>> please add me to the list,
>>>> I have start to play with the new tools
>>>> I have convert some docbook file to asciidoc with docbookrx tools and make
>>>> modification on help data to use the html generated files in the ofbiz
>>>> help, it's work's ;-)
>>>> If needed, I can convert all docbook files to asccidoc
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Le 07/02/2018 à 14:32, Sharan Foga a écrit :
>>>>> Hi Everyone
>>>>> (Trying again as my first post didn't reach this list)
>>>>> If you have read the latest project blog post then you will have seen
>>>> section about the discussions that have been happening on our development
>>>> list about the new proposed OFBiz documentation framework.
>>>>> https://s.apache.org/VfxE
>>>>> It is based on asciidoc and will be able to generate documentation in
>>>> various formats. This means that we can start to consolidate our OFBiz
>>>> documentation within OFBiz itself and adapt it to any new releases.
>>>>> Feedback to the proposal have been very positive and once the code is
>>>> moved into our current trunk we will need to start some documentation work.
>>>> We will be looking for volunteers to become part of a documentation team
>>>> that will work on reviewing the documents we already have in the wiki and
>>>> other sources, then help to re-structure them to fit into the new
>>>> documentation framework model.
>>>>> Being involved with documentation is a good way to learn OFBiz :-)
>>>>> So if you are interested in being part of the OFBiz documentation team
>>>> then please respond to this message and I will add you to the list.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Sharan


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